Patrick Shaughnessy 18541854

Patrick Shaughnessy 1854

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Patrick was born November 5th, 1852-54 to Edmond Shaughnessy and Bridget Hannon.  He married Catherine Ryan in 1874 and they soon emigrated to the United States.  Patrick had at least 6 siblings names being Mary, James, Edmond, Thomas, Margaret and Bridget.  Patrick and Catherine settled in Warwsaw, NY where they were farmers. They had 5 children, Katharine, Edward, John, Thomas and Mary.  Patrick died on May 1st, 1920 in Warsaw.

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Date of Birth 5th Nov 1854 (circa)
Date of Death 1st May 1920

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  • Hello,

    According to the Fedamore County Limerick baptism registers at the National Library of Ireland, Patrick Shaughnessy was baptized on 26 November 1852. His baptism is the second entry in the right-hand baptism register page: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634982#page/116/mode/1up

    You can enlarge the baptism register by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.

    The first names of Patrick and his parents are in the Latin form. For example, Patrick would be Patritius. Edmund is Edmundi. The mother Bridget’s first name is abbreviated as “Brit.”

    Below the names of the parents in the baptism record are the names of the sponsors, or godparents. The first name of the godfather is also Edmundi. His last name is very difficult to make out but I believe it is Enraght, though in the baptism record it looks like “Earaght.” This could be a variant of the surname “Enright.”

    The godmother is Cath (Catherine) Clifford. There is a name or a word to the right of Catherine’s name that I couldn’t make out.

    Unfortunately, the baptism does not record where the Shaughnessy family had been living at the time of Patrick’s baptism in 1852.

    Patrick would be the first-born child of Edmund Shaughnessy and Bridget Hannon, as Edmund and Bridget were married just a year earlier in the Fedamore Catholic Parish on 25 November 1851. Their marriage is on the left-hand marriage register page, 4th entry down from the top at: https://is.gd/d6HFZj

    The witnesses to the marriage were Daniel Howard and Honora Shaughnessy. Honora may have been Edmund’s brother. The residence of Edmund and Bridget is not recorded in the marriage record.

    I next uncovered the Fedamore Catholic Parish baptism records for three more of Edmund and Bridget’s children. Their names and years of baptism follow. I’ve also included Patrick again so you can see the full chronology of the four baptisms:

    Patritius Shaughnessy, 1852
    Maryann Shaughnessy, 1855
    Jacobum Shaughnessy, 1860
    Edmundum? Shaughnessy, 1862
    ____

    Maryann Shaughnessy’s baptism is very difficult to decipher because of the handwriting and because the writing in the baptism register is faded. Her baptism is on the left-hand register page, first entry below the April subheading toward the bottom of the page at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634983#page/7/mode/1up

    The first name of the godfather looks like it could be James. I could not tell what his last name was. The first name of the godmother is Margarita. Her last name looks like it could be Hannon.

    Jacobum (James) Shaughnessy was baptized on 17 March 1860, St. Patrick’s Day. His baptism is on the left-hand page, 8th entry down from the top at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634983#page/23/mode/1up

    The first name of the godfather looks like James. I couldn’t tell what his last name was. The name of the godmother looks like it could be Maria Dillan or Dillon.

    The name of the next child may be Edmund, but the writing in the baptism register is very faded and difficult to read. This child was baptized on what appears to be 10 August 1862. It also looks like the baptism is the 5th entry down from the top of the left-hand register page at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634983#page/31/mode/1up

    The first name of the godfather looks like James. I couldn’t tell what his last name was or the name of the godmother.

    MARGARET SHAUGHNESSY

    I did a pretty extensive search for the baptisms of Thomas, Margaret, and Bridget Shaughnessy in the Fedamore Catholic Parish registers, but came up empty. But, I did find the civil registration birth record for Margaret Shaughnessy at the free irishgenealogy.ie website. Margaret was born in a place called Skule, County Limerick on 30 June 1867. Her father is Edmund Shaughnessy, a labourer residing in Skule. Her mother is Bridget Shaughnessy, formerly Hannon. The person who was present at the birth and who reported the birth to the registrar was Mary Shaughnessy, whose residence was also Skule. Mary may have been Edmund’s sister of perhaps mother. The deputy registrar for Croom named James Hynes, recorded the birth on 19 July 1867. Margaret’s birth is Number 84 in the birth register at: https://is.gd/AmkszB

    Knowing that Margaret was born on 30 June 1867 I went back to the Fedamore baptism registers and looked for her baptism in late June and July of 1867, but didn’t find it.

    Her birth record shows that Margaret was born in Skule. This would be a reference to Skule, or Skule Hill. On some older maps these townlands are spelled Skool and Skool Hill.

    A Google Map shows that Skule and Skule Hill are just east of Fedamore: https://is.gd/CvPI4x

    A Google Street View of Skule can be viewed at: https://is.gd/fUIQWO

    For a Google Street View of Skule Hill go to: https://is.gd/pzHbtN

    When I located the four baptism records for the Shaughnessy children, I wasn’t sure if they had been baptized in the Fedamore Parish Church in Fedamore, or in a chapel in one of the outlying districts of the Fedamore Catholic Parish. However, Skule and Skule Hill are close to Fedamore, which means the Shaughnessy children would have been baptized in the Fedamore Catholic Church. The church is called St. John the Baptist. You can see the location of the church in a Google Map of Fedamore, though the name of the church is labeled “Fedamore Church” on the map: https://is.gd/pu987S

    According to the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage/Buildings of Ireland website, the St. John the Baptist Church in Fedamore was constructed in 1830, and is situated in a section of Fedamore called Ballyea. For more information and a slide show of the exterior and interior of the church, go to the Buildings of Ireland link at: https://is.gd/Hkd9ez

    You can view the location of St. John the Baptist Church and cemetery in Fedamore from a modern-day Buildings of Ireland map at:
    https://maps.archaeology.ie/historicenvironment/?REG_NO=21902222

    If you enlarge the map by clicking on the + sign in the upper left corner, you’ll see the church is labeled, “Saint John the Baptist’s Church.”

    THE MARRIAGE OF PATRICK O’SHAUGHNESSY AND CATHERINE RYAN

    THE CHURCH MARRIAGE RECORD

    Your information shows that Patrick Shaughnessy and Catherine Ryan were married in 1874. Based on this information I found their church marriage record as well as their civil registration marriage record.

    They were married in the Fedamore Catholic Church on 19 January 1874. You can view a copy of their church marriage record from the National Library of Ireland. Their marriage is on the right-hand page, second entry up from the bottom of the register at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634983#page/90/mode/1up

    Patrick’s last name is spelled, “OShaughnessy” in the register.

    First names in the marriage record are in the Latin form. Patrick is Patritius. Catherine is Catherina. The witnesses to the marriage were Michaela (Michael) Browne and Bridgida Clifford. The priest who married Patrick and Catherine was Joannes (John) Hallinan.

    THE CIVIL REGISTRATION MARRIAGE RECORD

    The civil registration marriage record shows that Patrick and Catherine were married din the Roman Catholic Chapel of Fedamore on 19 January 1874. This would be the St. John the Baptist Church. Patrick O’Shaughnessy is shown to have been a 21year old bachelor whose occupation was labourer. His residence at the time of marriage was Fedamore. His father is Edmund O’Shaghmessy, a labourer.

    Catherine Ryan is shown to be a 20 year old spinster whose occupation was labourer. Her residence at the time of marriage was Fedamore. Her father is John Ryan, a labourer. The priest who married Patrick and Catherine was John Hallinan, C.C. The initials C.C. stand for “Catholic Curate.” The witnesses to the marriage were Michael Browne and Bridget Clifford. Bridget signed her name with her mark in the form of the + sign, meaning she could not write. Someone else wrote in her name.

    When Patrick signed his last name in the marriage register he signed it as Shaughnessy, rather than O’Shaughnessy. Catherine Ryan made her mark in place of her name as she could not write. The marriage record is Number 119 in the register at: https://is.gd/F5lEWV

    I didn’t know if you had the church marriage record for Patrick and Catherine, or their civil marriage record, or a transcription of their marriage, and so I located both records.

    Concerning American records, I found that before Patrick and Catherine Shaughnessy lived in Warsaw, Wyoming County, New York, they had lived in nearby Perry, Wyoming County, New York. This information comes from the1880 U.S. census from Ancestry.com

    You can access the census at the Ancestry.com link: https://is.gd/LeYZO5

    The Shaughnessy family begins on Line 40 of the census. Both Patrick and Catherine are shown to be 24 years old. But, if Patrick’s age of 21 and Catherine’s age of 20 in their 1874 marriage record are accurate, Patrick would have been 27 in 1880 and Catherine 26.

    At the beginning of this reply you saw that Patrick was baptized on 26 November 1852. The Shaughnessy family was enumerated in the 1880 census on 12 June of that year, which means Patrick would have been 27 when the census was taken on 12 June, but would have turned 28 in November later that year.

    Back to the census, Patrick’s occupation is “Farmer.” Catherine’s occupation is “Keeping House.” In the household with them is their 5 year old daughter Catherine, who was born in New York.

    A Google Map shows that Perry, New York, by the shortest route, is 8.7 miles east of Warsaw: https://is.gd/trvptQ

    For a Google Street View of Perry, New York, go to: https://is.gd/GADFXp

    Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

    davepat

    Friday 26th March 2021 06:28PM
  • Oh My Goodness!
    I have not read through all this yet but I am amazed at what you have uncovered.  Thank you so so so  much!  Will respond once I get a chance to look through it all.

    Kathy Shaughnessy Wahl

     

    Kwahl

    Friday 26th March 2021 07:18PM
  • You're welcome Kathy, and thank you for your reply. Please don't hesitate to write with any questions.

    Dave

    davepat

    Friday 26th March 2021 07:26PM
  • Dear Dave,

    I have read through everything you sent and followed every link.  I am deeply grateful for what you have done.  You found information I had not seen before and it all corroborates with what I have found.  I did not have records for Edmund and Bridget Shaughessy's children but did have their names.  I did not have the civil record of Patrick and Catherine's marriage.  I always assumed they were married in Croom so that was new info for me.  In Griffith's Valuation I have found Edmond and Bridget living in Cloghadoolarty North which seems to be in the Skule area so that makes sense. I believe James's godfather was James Hartigan.  If you look at the names in Cloghadoolarty North you will find some of them were witnesses to marriages and baptisms. Hartigan is one of the names and it looks to me like Hartigan on the record.  

    All of the info in the US was not new to me.  I only live about a half hour from Warsaw, NY and have been to see the old homestead and the graves of Patrick and Catherine.  Their son, Thomas Patrick, was my grandfather and my father was Thomas Patrick Jr. I grew up with the name Kathleen Elizabeth Shaughnessy so my interest in the Shaughnessy name has lead me here.  It is so exciting to find info and try to imagine what their lives must have been like.  A couple of years ago my husband and I took a trip to Ireland that included a visit with a geneologist from the Irish Family History Center.  That is how I knew about Griffiths and Cloghadoorty North.  We drove there and I was able to walk down the road based on what Google Maps told us.  It was a wonderful feeling.  If only I had done this earlier in my life when more of my older family was alive so I could have asked all the questions I have. 

    I would like to figure out where Edmund and Bridget are buried.  I think Bridget passed not long after the births of her children but Edmond is still living in Cloghadoolarty North in the 1901 and 1911 Census.  He is living with a son Michael, who I think may have been Edmond, based on his age, though not sure.  Both James and Patrick emigrated and lived on farms in Warsaw.  I still don't know what happened to the other children.  I would love to find relatives in Ireland and think my best bet may be Catherine Ryan's family or perhaps siblings of Edmond or Bridget.  

    One day I was driving around Warsaw looking for the farm where Patrick lived.  I had an old 1901 map.  I stopped at a farm where there was a woman tending her garden and asked her if she knew of the Shaughnessy farm.  She told me they had purchased the Shaughnessy farm from the Shaughnessy's and pointed out the house to me.  Then she told me she had  two very large photographs that were found in the attic of the old homstead.  She gave those to me and they hang in my house today.  I don't know if they are Patrick and Catherine or James and his wife Kate because they both lived in the house at one time.  But I am so happy to have them.

    Anyway, thank you for all you hard work.  I so appreciate it!!!!!

    Sincerely,

    Kathy Shaughnessy Wahl

    Kwahl

    Tuesday 30th March 2021 01:45AM
  • You're welcome Kathy, and sorry for the long delay in replying, as I just came across your message today, 12 May.

    All the Best,

    Dave

    davepat

    Thursday 12th May 2022 06:36PM
  • I was very interested to read all of this.  Catherine Ryan is the daughter of John Ryan and Maria Coll.  Maria Coll is the sister of my great great grandfather Thomas Coll from Fanningstown, Fedamore.  He and his wife Margaret Ryan are the witnesses at their wedding.  The two families were very closely connected especially after the death of Margaret Ryan around 1860 which left Thomas with three small girls to look after, my great grandmother Bridget Coll and her sisters Maria and Catherine.  John Ryan and Maria Coll's other children were James Ryan (1854-1927) who married Bridget Gleeson and emigrated to Australia in 1884. Thomas Ryan, born 1857, William Ryan, born 1860, who emigrated to New Zealand, Daniel Ryan (1864-1956) who emigrated to USA.  He died aged 92 at the home of his nephew Thomas O'Shaughnessy, Catherine's son and Patrick Ryan (1868-1899) who married Mary Agnes Callaghan and emigrated to the USA.

    elaineh

    Friday 17th June 2022 04:17AM
  • I am very excited to see this message, Elaine!  I will add more info later but so excited to connect with a family member!

    Kathy

     

    Kwahl

    Friday 17th June 2022 05:00PM
  • Hi!  
    I was very excited to get your information.  Daniel Ryan lived with my father's family for quite a while in Caledonia. My father, Thomas Patrick Jr. was the youngest in his family and Uncle Dan lived with them most of his growing years.   My father always spoke highly of him and I believe he was like a father to my father.  Uncle Dan was a big gardener and taught my father a lot about gardening. Uncle Dan died the year I was born.  I have not been able to figure out if Uncle Dan married or had children.  No one ever spoke of that to me.  My father, Thomas Patrick Jr, died in November, 2018 at the age of 84.

    I would be happy to send pictures I have of Uncle Dan and Catherine's sons if you want to share your email. Mine is kewahl1@gmail.com

    Thank you!

    Kathy

     

    Kwahl

    Monday 20th June 2022 07:21PM
  • Hi!  
    I was very excited to get your information.  Daniel Ryan lived with my father's family for quite a while in Caledonia. My father, Thomas Patrick Jr. was the youngest in his family and Uncle Dan lived with them most of his growing years.   My father always spoke highly of him and I believe he was like a father to my father.  Uncle Dan was a big gardener and taught my father a lot about gardening. Uncle Dan died the year I was born.  I have not been able to figure out if Uncle Dan married or had children.  No one ever spoke of that to me.  My father, Thomas Patrick Jr, died in November, 2018 at the age of 84.

    I would be happy to send pictures I have of Uncle Dan and Catherine's sons if you want to share your email. Mine is kewahl1@gmail.com

    Thank you!

    Kathy

     

    Kwahl

    Monday 20th June 2022 07:21PM

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