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I'm looking for information on the ancestors of Lydia Darlington and Nathaniel Wellington Bates.

Lydia (b 1 Nov 1811, Inch by Gorey, d 26 Jun 1898 Merrickville, Ontario, Canada) was the fourth child of Robert Darlington (carpenter, b @ 1774, son of William Darlington) and Catharine McGrath (b @ 1777).  Catharine may have had a previous marriage to a Powell.

Nathaniel (b 17 Jan 1811, Co Wexford, d 4 May 1895 Wolford Twp, Ontario, Canada) was the youngest of the 14 children of Peter Bates (d 14 Aug 1814) and Hannah Cockrill/Cogheral (b @ 1765).  Hannah and Peter were married in 1786 in the Diocese of Ossory, Leinster, Province.

Nathaniel and Lydia were Wesleyan Methodists.

Nathaniel's siblings were:  Robert (b 7 May 1783), Thomas (b 10 Jul 1787), Elizabeth/Eliza (b 7 Mar 1789), Jane (b 20 Feb 1791), William (b 7 Dec 1792), Mary (b 24 Nov 1794), Alice "Aby" (b 1 Dec 1796), Ann/Anna (b 11Sep 1798), Hannah (b 4 Jan 1800), Peter (b 20 Nov 1802), Martha (b 8 Apr 1805), Samuel (b 18 Sep 1807), and Benjamin (b 1 May 1809).

Lydia's siblings were:  Alice (b 16 Mar 1802), Joseph (christened 18 May 1806), Margaret "Martha" (b @ 1809), Sarah "Sally" (b 13 May 1814), Catherine (b 2 Jan 1818) and Maria (b 10 Aug 1820).

Nathaniel and Lydia emigrated to Canada in 1826 along with a number of their siblings.   Any information on the Bates and Darlington families in Ireland would be terrifically appreciated!

Liisa

Liisa C

Friday 16th Aug 2019, 05:52PM

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  • Liisa,

    Methodism took a lot longer to become established in Ireland as a separate denomination than in England. In Ireland there was considerable resistance to separating from the Church of Ireland. It was 1815 before Methodists agreed to conduct their own baptisms. However because of continuing loyalty and other factors, many continued to use the Church of Ireland for sacraments for years after this and it was 1871 before all Methodists routinely performed their own baptisms.

    For marriages, the earliest ceremonies conducted by a Methodist Minister in Ireland that I am aware of, date from 1835 (Belfast Donegall Square, the first Methodist church in Ireland). However in the mid 1800s there were only a few Methodist Ministers in Ireland (Methodism relied heavily on lay preachers). So the shortage of Ministers contributed to the continuing practice of marrying in the Church of Ireland. In addition, in the early years, many Methodist Meeting Houses were not licensed for marriages so that too contributed to couples marrying in the Church of Ireland.

    So to summarise, you are unlikely to find many Methodist baptisms before 1820. Few marriages before the 1840s and only a handful for many years after that. If there are no Methodist records in the location you are interested in, I would search the Church of Ireland instead, as that’s the most likely place to find the relevant event.

    Not many Methodist Meeting Houses have graveyards and so they may be buried in public or Church of Ireland graveyards (which are open to all denominations).

     

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 16th Aug 2019, 06:59PM
  • Inch Church of Ireland parish is one of just two CofI parishes currently included as transcripts on RootsIreland (pay-website), the sources list note baptisms between 1722 to 1901 but is not clear on coverage during this perid. A search of the transcripts show four of the Darlington children - all Inch CofI parish, the following details are recorded in each case - child's name, date of Baptism, residence is noted as Castletown or 'Castletown,parish Land Of Ahare'. , father's name of Robert and mother's first name only Catherine. (the following are not noted - date of birth, Mother's maiden surname or father's occupation).

    Alice bapt. 21st March 1802
    Joseph bapt. 18th May 1806
    Lydia bapt. 10th November 1811
    Sarah bapt. 22nd May 1814

    No sign I could find of a baptism for Nathaniel or his sibling in the Inch records.  Alice was the earliest Darlington baptism found in the Inch parish transcripts included in the system.

    According to the Parish Records List from the RCBL baptism records for Inch are available back to 1726, marriages back to 1727 and death/burials back to 1726. Copies appear to be held by both the National Archives and the Representative Body Library. The Library is currently undertaking the Anglican Record Project to transcribe registers, which could take some time, but might be worth keeping an eye out for updates to see if Inch Co. Wexford records show up...

    I'm not certain regarding the placename 'Castletown,parish Land Of Ahare' - as there's no townland of that name in the parish.. there is a townland named Ahare to the south east of the town of Inch that could be connected see Ahare townland, Kilcavan/Kilgorman civil parish (placename database), it's located close to a town named Castletown.

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 16th Aug 2019, 07:41PM
  • Elwyn, thank you for your post.  I was aware that Methodism wasn't an established church in it's own right at the time.  I mentioned it because the only source material I have been able to track down on the internet placing the Bates' & Darlingtons in Ireland was the Methodist Class Book Newtonberry Circuit, County Wexford, Ireland (1819-1846) from the Los Angeles Temple Genealogical Library holdings of the Los Angeles Family History Center.  Nathaniel and Lydia and family were all strong Wesleyans, with Nathaniel apparently serving as a lay preacher.

    Liisa C

    Sunday 18th Aug 2019, 06:51PM
  • Shanew147 - thank you as well for your post and information.  Those are definitely my Darlingtons!  I would love to be able to track down any further information relating to Robert and Catherine and the Darlingtons in Wexford (I have extensive information on them and their descendants following their emigration to Canada).  I believe Robert's father was William, but have no name for his mother.  

    Thanks for the nod to the Anglican Record Project.  Fingers are crossed that the Inch records are uploaded sooner than later!  Again, many thanks.

     

    Liisa C

    Sunday 18th Aug 2019, 07:04PM
  • Thomas (b 10 Jul 1787)-- i have this person im my tree. 

    i dont have much backgruond, but he moved to st john's newfoundland and got married to Anastasia /anstace/ Myers  - she was born 1792 in clonmel i think

    i have read that he is one of the many kids of Thomas Bates and Hannah C. but cant find more info

    they had three kids acc to records from church in st john's --margaret, thomas, margaret again..

    one of them then married felix dowsley

     

    Mari

    Wednesday 6th Jul 2022, 03:58PM

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