Church where my great grandparents were married

Duneane is the name of the Civil parish as well as a Catholic parish, and back in the 1830s (Lewis) the RC chapels for the parish were listed at Moneyglass and Cargin, both of which are townlands in the parish. Maybe one of these still exists, or at least  updated buildings on the same sites...

Thank you so much for such a quick response!  I will research Moneylass and Cargin (which I believe would be the name of the towns).  Have a great day!

Catherine

Townlands are the smallest sub-division of land in Ireland. Some contain towns, but most do not. I'll have a look on Google maps and see if there's any sign of the locations, or churches.

In Northern Ireland, you can often find roads in rural area named after the townland they run through, which can help locate them on maps etc  

it's difficult to see through the trees, but I think this could be the chapel/church at Moneyglass townland :  see - Google Maps  (street view)

Same location on the 1st Edition OSI Maps RC Chapel  (c1837)
The church is actualt adjacent to Moneyglass townland

The townland is a few miles north-east of Toomebridge, which is located at the northen end of Lough Neagh..

Thank you so much! 

With tears in my Irish eyes I am so grateful for this information! I am so excited to visit this church where my great grandparents were married.  I cannot thank you enough for this!

Have a great day - your have made MY day! 

Catherine

no problem - enjoy your upcoming trip to Ireland!

see also a church near Cargin Road that might be the 2nd chapel mentioned - see here (Google Street View)

and on the OSI Maps - at this link

Cargin townland is located south east of Toomebridge.

(edit - repaired the link for Google street view)

Thank you for this info.  I will visit both churches and see if there is any information there.  Unfortunately, I think this timeframe is a problem between the fire that took so many records, and for there not being any records kept.  But, I am very very happy that one of these churchs if probably where my great grandparents were married shortly before coming to America.

Catherine

the fire that's most commonly mentioned is the one at the Four Court during the civil war, but this didn't effect any Catholic records. Historic records for the parish are availabale to view in either the National Library in Dublin, or at the Public records Offfice of Northern Ireland (PRONI), and for this parish go back to abt 1834.

Oh, my gosh.  Maybe there is hope.  We believe Henry Walsh was born in 1814 or 1824 and Ellen Cranny approximately 1827 (according to the census here in the States).  I will hope to visit PRONI to see if I can find anything. 

Many thanks!

Catherine

Doesn't look like the records for the parish go back quite far enough for the baptisms of Henry and Ellen, but you might find baptisms for some of their children and maybe possible relations, especially with a nice rare surname like Cranny..

I had a quick look at the baptism index on RootsIreland (pay-website) and there's a possible child listed for the couple - an Edward baptised 1850. It's doesn't seem to be Duneane RC parish though, so maybe they moved soon after they married ?

Thanks for this Shanew147. Hope you enjoy your trip Catherine!

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

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I failed to mention that I have a baptism record for their son, Edward baptised on Dec. 26, 1850.  It lists Parish/District:  Duneane, County:  Antrim, Denomination:  Roman Catholic.  They brought Edward as an infant to America, because he is listed in the 1860 census here as born in Ireland, and a sister 9 years old born in America.  They went on to have a total of 7 children - one of whom was my grandfather.    Thanks again!

Catherine

Appreciate all this help & support.

Thank you Clare!

Catherine

Catherine,

I live in Duneane and can confirm that there are still chapels at both Cargin and Moneyglass. At Cargin the original chapel still stands but is derelict, with a modern replacement beside it. At Moneyglass the original church was demolished in the 1930s and the current church replaces it.

There is also a third chapel in the parish, in Toomebridge, but it was only built in the 1960s and so you can disregard it from your research.

The pattern today, for most locals, is just to use whichever chapel has the most convenient mass times but in the 1800s, when most people walked to church, people on the south side of the parish tended to go to Cargin and the others to Moneyglass. If you know where in the parish your family lived (ie their townland) then that may help establish which they used. The parish records should also record that too.

The parochial house is in Moneyglass (beside the chapel) and is where the original baptism and marriage records are kept.  If you decide to ask to see the originals you?ll need to make an appointment. The parish priest (for all 3 chapels) is very busy and it's probably fair to say that he doesn?t have a lot of spare time for people researching their family trees. He gets rather more genealogical queries than he can cope with, and they wouldn?t be his top priority. He has to remain in the room whilst people check the records and so it takes up a lot of his time. It can be difficult to get an appointment.  You may not alwasy get the warmest of welcomes. I?d try PRONI first.

Elwyn

Hello!  

I am also tracing Walsh ancestors just east of that region and born about that time.  

I have a marriage record for a John Walsh m Lina Mitchel 1834 Randalstown RC, his address Milltown, hers Dunsilly.  Lina has been recorded as Helena, Selina, Celina, Lina, and Lena.  Children found for this couple, I believe, were baptd in Randalstown RC and include:   

John 1835

Daniel 1838

Elizabeth 1841

JAMES 1843 (I believe this may be my 3xgf)

Margaret 1846

Agnes 1849

Isabella 1849 (same year as Agnes, ? same child)

Michael 1852

Margaret 1854

Selina 1857

John Mitchell 1861

Paid to see James b1843 bapt cert.  Address at that time was Steeple.  Sponsors Daniel Walsh and Isabella Walsh.  

Hope this helps.  Will keep your Henry in mind while searching.  

cjm

Hi Catherine,

Did you have any succes in your search for your great-grandparents?
I too have an ancestor by the name of Rose Cranny from Millquarter in Duneane parish. She was born in 1852. Given the unusual surname I would imagine Rose may have been related to Ellen Cranny. I live in Duneane parish. The name Cranny is not found here now although there are a few Walsh families.

Best regards,
Adrian