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My GGrandfather, Terence Cosgrove (b  ca 1830) came to the US through Canada in the late 1840's and settled in Buffalo.

There were 7 brothers and Terence was the youngest. The oldest was Arthur b. ca 1817, Francis b. ca 1819. There was

also Bernard, Thomas, William and James. I believe that they were tenants on Lord Charlemont's estates and left when the

land leases expired and the land was played outi  1840's. I believe their townland was Cladybeg. I have not been successful in determining birth records or marriage records. Their father's name was John and Mother was Mary. Many tenants had the same names and I am sure some went by middle names or nicknames. Very confusing. Any help would be appreciated.

Monica 

Research Gal

Thursday 25th Jun 2015, 12:23AM

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  • You say that you think the family may come from Clady Beg. That townland is in the RC parish of Ballymacnab (civil parish of Kilclooney) not in Killevy. Ballymacnab’s marriage records only start in 1844. Baptisms start in 1820. Those records are on the rootsireland site (subscription).

    My reading of the Clady Beg records in Griffiths 1864 is that John Cosgrove held 11 acres of land on plot 16. There was also a house there but he didn’t live in it and instead sublet it to John McGuinness and another. So John was living somewhere else nearby. Since he isn’t otherwise listed in Griffiths for that parish I’d guess he stayed with one of his relatives, and so doesn’t show up.(Only heads of household are listed in Griffiths).  By 1869 Bernard has taken the land over suggesting John may have died. There is 1 death in the stat records that fits. That’s for John Cosgrove died 23.3.1871 aged 60. Registered in Armagh city. You can view the certificate on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:

     

    https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

    (You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2 to a view a certificate).

    Returning to the land valuation records, plot 16 changed to Patrick in 1880 at which point he was also occupying the house on the land. In 1893, it changed to Catherine (his widow perhaps?) and finally in 1896 the farm reverted to the Charlemont estate.

    A Patrick Cosgrove died on 23.6.1888 at Clady Beg, aged 95 (see probate abstract below). He seems too old to be descended from John. (Could be a brother perhaps). There’s another Patrick Cosgrove death registered in Armagh 25.2.1892 aged 53. Perhaps that’s the former tenant of plot 16?

    PRONI has some probate abstracts for Cosgroves of Clady Beg. Some of the wills are on-line. Some are not and you would either need to go to PRONI in person or pay them to copy them, if you want to read them.

    The Will of Henry Cosgrove late of Cladybeg County Armagh Farmer deceased who died 9 April 1881 at same place was proved at Armagh by John Gollogly of Cladybeg and George Taylor of Cladymore both in County Armagh Farmers the Executors.

    Letters of Administration (with the Will annexed) of the personal estate of Patrick Cosgrove late of Cladybeg County Armagh Farmer who died 28 June 1888 at same place were granted at Armagh to John Cosgrove of Cladybeg a son and a Legatee.

    (The above will is on-line on the PRONI wills site. Patrick was evidently a widower. He left the farm to his son John. Other sons were Felix, Francis, James & Patrick).

    Administration of the Estate of James Cosgrove late of Cladybeg County Armagh Farmer (Retired) who died 31 January 1910 granted at Armagh to Sarah Cosgrove Spinster

    Cosgrove Patrick of Cladybeg county Armagh farmer died 10 December 1923 at Ballymacnab county Armagh Probate Belfast 5 June to Michael Clarke and John Vallely farmers. Effects £2.

    Cosgrove Peter of Cladybeg Mowhan county Armagh old age pensioner and farmer died 21 June 1951 Probate Belfast 26 September to Sarah Golloghy spinster. Effects £69.

    There were other probate files for Cosgroves in the adjacent townland of Clady More.

    http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 25th Jun 2015, 04:45AM
  • Elwyn,

    This family in Griffiths may well be related but it is not the same John since we believe him to have died in the 1840's.

    He would probably have been born in the 1790's since his children were born between 1817 and 1830. (The ones that we

    know about anyway.) Mary is listed in the Estate Records for Lord Charlemonts Estate as a Widow and the sons disappear

    from the estate surveys in the mid 1840's.  That fits in with their appearance in Buffalo in 1847. Mary died en route to the US

    according to family lore which has proven to be unusually accurate as my research has evolved.

    Kilclooney did not come up on this website (with several varients in spelling) so I tried this one. I will see if Ballymcnab comes up.

    I looked at the records on PRONI some time ago though nearly everything is from after my GGrandfather left.

    I enjoyed reading the wills. Some of them I could easily imagine some of my relatives writing. Chuckle!

    Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I would appreciate any further info that you come across from

    the earlier time frame.  Enjoy your day!

    Monica

     

    Research Gal

    Thursday 25th Jun 2015, 11:55PM
  • Elwyn,

    This family in Griffiths may well be related but it is not the same John since we believe him to have died in the 1840's.

    He would probably have been born in the 1790's since his children were born between 1817 and 1830. (The ones that we

    know about anyway.) Mary is listed in the Estate Records for Lord Charlemonts Estate as a Widow and the sons disappear

    from the estate surveys in the mid 1840's.  That fits in with their appearance in Buffalo in 1847. Mary died en route to the US

    according to family lore which has proven to be unusually accurate as my research has evolved.

    Kilclooney did not come up on this website (with several varients in spelling) so I tried this one. I will see if Ballymcnab comes up.

    I looked at the records on PRONI some time ago though nearly everything is from after my GGrandfather left.

    I enjoyed reading the wills. Some of them I could easily imagine some of my relatives writing. Chuckle!

    Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I would appreciate any further info that you come across from

    the earlier time frame.  Enjoy your day!

    Monica

    PS Just got Killclooney to come up! Must have had a bad day yesterday

    Research Gal

    Thursday 25th Jun 2015, 11:57PM

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