Butlers in Kilrush,County Clare, Ireland

Hi Lois

Many thanks for you email and genealogy message. We only have a few parishes signed up for Co Clare, yet!

It takes time. I will put up a profile for Kilrush parish.

Thank you for your kind words about the website. The project only just went nationwide. I will try and source some information for you. Will be in touch again... hopefully with some genealogy information. Good luck with your genealogy quest. PaulaIreland Reaching Out HQ

I've just posted these links in the Kilrush Local History Group over at

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=471249389557604&id=187…

 The Allender family are easy to trace.  They have been victuallers/butchers in Kilrush and Kilkee for a very long time - Ben Allender in Tithes, 1826: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/tithe_applot/kilrush… Lease to Benjamin Allender jun. in 1840: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/fam_his/van… Benjamin Allender sen. died in 1843; looks like Benjamin Butler may have been named after an Allender grandfather! http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/fam_his/van… William Allender lost 3 sheep in 1849: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=119852404758177&id=187… Benjamin jun., Edward and Francis all listed on Moore Street by Slater 1846; only Benjamin there in Griffith 1855: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=118704888257478&id=187… Michael Allender from Clare married Mary Watson from Limerick and having children before and after start of civil registration in 1864, including another Benjamin: https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname… Very few Clare Allenders in 1901 and 1911 censuses - Kilkee 1901: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Kilkee/Kilkee__A… Michael and Mary's daughter Annie married James Quin(n) in 1884 q3 (Kilrush v.4 p.153) and settled in Roscrea - Roscrea 1901: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Roscrea/Main… I can't find Michael's brother Thomas Allender in 1901, but he was back with the family in Kilkee in 1911: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Kilkee/O_Connell… Roscrea 1911: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Roscrea/Main… This Allender query is one of many. Francis Allender and Margaret Kennedy's descendants by Ruth C Westbrook at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/e/s/Ruth--C-Westbrook/WEBS… Nov 2010 query re Francis by Deborah Scott at http://www.allenderfamily.org/guestbook/ Nov 1999 query re Francis by Elayne Ellery at http://genforum.genealogy.com/allender/messages/89.html 

I've no idea why only of the URLs in my previous message is properly hyperlinked, but they are all clickable over on facebook.

Since my last post,with ALL your help, I reconnected with my England Butler contact,seeing message here! TY...WOW!

Now,he's learned that Frank Butler's(My husbands grandpap) christening(his late Mom wrote down while on a holiday to Ireland) as 23 July 1862,looks to be lst child,as parents Patrick and Mary Ann (Allender) Butler married 20 Oct 1861, witnesses Pat Taylor and Mary McC????g  ?? These dates were found by a priest in a Catholic Church..we don't know where.

The family moved around,we noticed their 2nd child christened 14 Jan 1864 in Co.Clare, Kilrush,Kilkee district. Thought maybe this is where they married and Francis born?

Question-having the Kilrush microfilm(but not Kilkee district?) and knowing birth registrations began in 1864,

how would I go about finding proof of the above 2 dates? We've also found that Allenders and Butler's from Co.Clare,Kilrush,Kilrush,(Griffiths-TY Paddy Walden) but unable to find parents marriage and Francis(Frank)Butler's birth/christening.

Any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated. Lois

My grandfather was Benjamin Butler married to Annie Sullivan who died in 1931. The both lived in Kilrush. My grandfather was the son of the owner of a confectionary factory but I don't know the name (of my great grandfather, perhaps Michael Butler). Benjamin Butler was in the Irish guards and fought in nearly all of the major battles in the first world war. I have no date when died. He moved to Bristol England and re-married. The children (including my mother) were put in the orphanage in Kilrush which was run by nuns at the time. The children also moved to Bristol England some years later. My mother was Monica May Butler (Born May 3 1929 in Athlone, died December 15 1993 in Bristol - Married name Rathbone). I am very keen to find out any information about the Butlers (and if known Annie Sullivan)
Bob Rathbone
Vlijmen, The Netherlands.

Just saw this Bob......Your grandfather Ben,married to Annie Sullivan, having 6 daughters in Kilrush:Mary Anne-1920,Helen-1922,Angela-1923,Nora-1931,twins Christina and Pauline-1933. This Ben was the son of Michael and Mary Ann Murphy of Kilrush,who stayed in Ireland to take care of the confectionary business. Guess they moved to Athlone,where your Mom,Monica born in 1929,looking at the gap between 1923 and 1931 births. I wasn't aware they were in orphanage,guess due to Annie's death?

I had same situation with my maternal grandma's siblings..farmed out to relatives,after their Mom's death,as the father couldn't take care of them and work at the same time. Understandable.

I will e-mail my Butler cousin if he knows anymore..and yes, we saw this Ben Butler had served in WWI.

Now to fill you in on prior Butler family, Francis and Mary Burke Butler lived in Kilrush, he the confectioner..his son(don't have anyother children at this time)Patrick married Mary Ann Allender in 1861.

Patrick was a baker and Allenders were the butchers in Kilrush., Moore St,Burton,etc.Their oldest son,Francis Patrick(Frank)

was my husbands Grandpap. He came to USA about 1882/84. When Patrick/Mary Ann died in 1888, he paid passage for the younger siblings to USA to take care of them. .I'm looking for HIS brother Benjamin(1884-??) who also served,we think,in WWI-British. this Ben came to USA,also. Family story was brother Michael stayed in Ireland to take care of the confectionary business. My cousin is the grgrandson of Michael,thru his son John.They all  went to England abt. 1950 or so to get work!  Paddy was only one who stayed in Ireland,dieing in 2013,but he never married.

If you would give me your e-mail address, I can show you more....on FaceBook,Paddy Waldron has a page on Kilrush, then also is p.j.culligan,who gave cousin the names/births of your Ben's daughters in Kilrush, think still living there. Also my cousins tree on ancestry.com..are you a member? Let me know.  Hope this helps some. Lois

Just saw this Bob......Your grandfather Ben,married to Annie Sullivan, having 6 daughters in Kilrush:Mary Anne-1920,Helen-1922,Angela-1923,Nora-1931,twins Christina and Pauline-1933. This Ben was the son of Michael and Mary Ann Murphy of Kilrush,who stayed in Ireland to take care of the confectionary business. Guess they moved to Athlone,where your Mom,Monica born in 1929,looking at the gap between 1923 and 1931 births. I wasn't aware they were in orphanage,guess due to Annie's death?

I had same situation with my maternal grandma's siblings..farmed out to relatives,after their Mom's death,as the father couldn't take care of them and work at the same time. Understandable.

I will e-mail my Butler cousin if he knows anymore..and yes, we saw this Ben Butler had served in WWI.

Now to fill you in on prior Butler family, Francis and Mary Burke Butler lived in Kilrush, he the confectioner..his son(don't have anyother children at this time)Patrick married Mary Ann Allender in 1861.

Patrick was a baker and Allenders were the butchers in Kilrush., Moore St,Burton,etc.Their oldest son,Francis Patrick(Frank)

was my husbands Grandpap. He came to USA about 1882/84. When Patrick/Mary Ann died in 1888, he paid passage for the younger siblings to USA to take care of them. .I'm looking for HIS brother Benjamin(1884-??) who also served,we think,in WWI-British. this Ben came to USA,also. Family story was brother Michael stayed in Ireland to take care of the confectionary business. My cousin is the grgrandson of Michael,thru his son John.They all  went to England abt. 1950 or so to get work!  Paddy was only one who stayed in Ireland,dieing in 2013,but he never married.

If you would give me your e-mail address, I can show you more....on FaceBook,Paddy Waldron has a page on Kilrush, then also is p.j.culligan,who gave cousin the names/births of your Ben's daughters in Kilrush, think still living there. Also my cousins tree on ancestry.com..are you a member? Let me know.  Hope this helps some. Lois

Hi Lois,

Many thanks for your reply.

Benjamin Butler and his wife Anne  also had a son called Frank Butler but I don't know where he was born. My email addess is bob@bobrathbone.com.