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Hello I'm looking for more information on the following people,

My G Grandfather Michael Johnston was baptised on the 8th March 1858 at Bryansford Catholic Church Kilcoo his father was Robert Johnston, mother Catherine Byrne (Burns).Sponsors Sara Johnston and Jas( James?)Byrne. Marriage info added in 1908 his second ,would have he been visting the church to have the info added as his first marriage was not ?he was first married in 1887 in Liverpool as was his second..

Possible family members.

John Johnson baptised 15th June 1860 parents Robert Johnson.Catherine Burns /sponsors John Johnson/Rose Burns.

Bridget Johnson baptised 16th May 1862 parents Robert Johnson Catherine Burns /sponsors William Murnin/MaryAnn Johnson.

Patrick David Johnson  baptised 28th Sept 1867.

Mary Johnson baptised 20th April 1870 parents Robert Johnson.Catherine Burns /sponsors Joseph Johnson /Ellen Johnson .

Catherine Johnson baptised 31st October 1872 parents Robert Johnson /Catherine Burns /sponsors Owen Fitzpatrick /Margrete Cowen.

Sponsors William Murnin married Ann Byrne/Burns

thank you for any info and help

Janet

 

 

 

Friday 14th Jul 2017, 03:44PM

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  • Regarding the question about the marriage information being added, you enquire whether Michael would have visited the church. The answer would be no. The priest conducting the marriage in Liverpool would have written to the priest in Bryansford to confirm the personal details, and he would have added this information then.

    Statutory birth registration started in Ireland in 1864. I looked up the statutory birth certs for Patrick David J. His date of birth is 1.11.1867. Family lived at Drumena, and his father was a basket maker. Mary was born 2.6.1870 & Catherine 31.10.1872. Again at Drumena. Father was a labourer. If you are observant, you’ll notice that two of those births apparently occurred 6 weeks after the child was baptised.  The explanation for that apparent miracle is that the dates of birth are wrong. People didn’t hurry to register a birth if the registrar lived some distance away. They waited till they were in the area on some other business and did it then. There was a penalty for late registration though, so when they did eventually get around to the task, they just moved the date of birth to one that wouldn’t incur any late registration penalty. No-one cared when you were actually born, so it really didn’t matter.

    Robert Johnston appears in the valuation revision records for Drumena until 1876 when his name is deleted. He is replaced by Catherine, suggesting Robert had died around that time. In addition to Catherine, Ellen, Patrick and John Johnson all shared plot 9 in Drumena.

    http://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/ImageResult.aspx

    The 1901 census for Drumena appears to be missing.

    This looks to be John Johnson, basket maker & farmer, in the 1911 census :

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Fofanny/Drumena/242945/ 

    Plot 9 in Drumena is on the shore of the Lough Island Reavy reservoir. The A25 Dublin Rd runs through the bottom of the land.

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 14th Jul 2017, 10:10PM

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