Patrick O'Connor 1799 Duagh Parish-1877 Towson MD USA

Diana:

I suggest you go to www.irishgenealogy.ie which is a free Irish government site which has Co. Kerry church records.

The Duagh parish records start around 1819. I took a quick look at their records and did find a baptismal record for Margaret in 1825 and Thomas in 1827. The mother was Joanna Keane and Patrick's surname was Connor. The O' was suppressed in the 19th century. 

You should search the site and see what other records you can find.

Let me know if you have questions.

Roger McDonnell

Thank you for the link. You have found my 3x Great Grandfather. that has to be him.  I had her name as Johannah Kane and now know it is Joanna Keane. This is so very exciting.

Diana:

I looked again and there is a Mary in 1833 and a Joanna in 1842. If this Joanna is part of the family then maybe Patrick left 1842 or later.

Roger

Diana,

You may wish to know that the address of Patrick O'Connor and Johanna Kean(e) at the time of the baptism of their daughter Johanna in 1842 was Lisroe. This townland is to the south west of the village of Duagh.

Furthermore there is a Patrick Connor listed as a tenant (of about 23 acres) in this townland at the time of Griffiths Valuation (c. 1850).

Tom

Tom,

I am very interested to know the address at the time of Johanna's Baptism as Lisroe. Do you have access to original records? I am desparately trying to locate the marriage record for Patrick O'Connor and Joanna Keane which would be about 1823-25 or earlier. I am also trying to locate the birth or baptism records of Ellen (Eleanor) about 1852 and Patriick  F. about 1835, but could be as early as 1825.

I appreciate the Griffiths Valuation record also.  Any information on my family will be greatly appreciated. Diana

Diana,

The answer to your question is yes, I do have access to the original records. I am a native of the parish of Duagh. And I am currently at home for the Christmas period. Last year I photographed most of the baptism and marriage records from the nineteenth century. However I have yet to do the earliest years - prior to 1834. So right now I'm not able to check the original detail on the other names that you mention. When I get a chance I'm going to call over to the presbytery in Duagh and photograph the earliest records. Too wet to go there today. But maybe tomorrow.

Meanwhile I should give you some background on these records. As you probably know the original parish records were written in latin - except for surnames and addresses which were rendered in english. (By the way, from about 1853-68 the records were written entirely in English.) There is a great deal of variation in spelling. For example Keane might be written as Kean, Kane, or even Cain. The baptismal records began in 1819. Marriages weren't recorded until 1826.

At some point in the twentieth century someone took on the task of re-writing the records in typescript. Baptisms from 1819-1906 and Marriages from 1826-1911 were typed and listed in alphabetical order. It is these typescripts that were digitised a few years ago and which are now available to view at the Irish genealogy website. Needless to say some errors were made when creating the typescript version. And then some more errors crept in when digitising the typescript. It's always best to get the original record. One thing they never transcribed when creating the typescript was the local address of the parents. It was by looking at the original that I was able to see that Patrick O'Connor and Johanna Keane were resident in Lisroe in 1842 when Johanna was baptised. By the way Johanna's godparents were Maurice Keane and Mary Keane.

Since marriage records only began in 1826, the marriage of Patrick O'Connor and Johanna Keane is probably not available.

You say that Eleanor was born in 1852. I've checked and it doesn't seem that she is listed. At least not for any time around then. However there is a break in the baptism record from December 1852 to February 1853 inclusive. There are also other missing sections. Nothing we can do about that.

I hope this information is of some use to you.

I'll report again when I look at the originals for the period 1819-33.

Tom

Diana:

I just responded to your latest message.

Roger

Tom:

Great work! Are you the parish liaison for Duagh parish? I did not see your name on our master list of liaisons. We get a lot of queries for Duagh ( or at least it seems we do).

Roger McDonnell

Roger,

I'm not a liaison for the parish. Didn't know their was such a thing. However I am compiling a full list of Duagh baptisms and marriages which I think is more complete than those on the Irish Genealogy site. I'm doing it in an excel workbook. When finished I'll be happy to send it to anyone who might like to use it.

Tom

Tom:

I see that you are in Ireland. I just checked and the parish liaison for Duagh parish is from Upstate New York. As an aside, we might have liaisons for about 1/4-1/3 of the parishes in Ireland. Like any any project, some are more active than others. I live in the States but I'm the liaison for two parishes in Co. Roscommon.

I would like a copy of the records when you have completed the file. We can also add the info as a link on our parish page for Duagh. We are working on a web site redesign and hopefully it will go live later in the spring.

Roger

Tom and Roger,

I reside in Colorado and I am planning a trip to Ireland in the next two years. I am so very excited discovering more about my O'Connor family. Tom, I cannot thank you enough for your help. I agree that the original document is the best record. I always try to locate the orginal records because I have a personal interest in all the detail. Whereas someone transcribing will just get the main information. For instance the sponsors that Tom mentioned in the baptism record for Johanna could very well be the names of her aunt and uncle. Sponsors are usually relatives.My Irish research is just beginning. I am enthusiastically waiting for more discoveries. Thanks Diana

I apparently have posts in two different places. I will try to keep my posts to this location going forward. My original post was incorrect regarding the year of immigration to the U.S. My 3X great grandfather arrived in the U.S after 1852 and before 1860.  I have based this on the records I have found in the U.S. Patrick's daughter Ellen/Eleanor O'Connor was born about 1852 in Ireland. She married Patrick Hines in St. Mary's of the Assumption Catholic Church, Gowans, Balt., MD in 1871. The record stated her parents as Patrick O'Connor and Johannah Kane. I have not been able to find any proof that Johannah Kane O'Connor came to the states. She may have died in Ireland.

I have a couple of questions about the history of Duagh Parish and migrant routes leaving Ireland. If you were a resident of Lisroe, like my O'Connor family, what route of travel and what port would they travel to leave Ireland for America. I am also assuming they left because of the potato famine. But, I am not familiar enough with Ireland's history to know otherwise.

I understand that the marriage records for Duagh start in 1826 which is most likely too late to find the marriage record for Patrick Connor and Joanna Keane. I am thinking that the Duagh Parish was formed from another parish. Perhaps two other parishes. Could that be the case? If so I can look in those parishes for marriage records.

Also the Duagh Parish administrator is Steve O'Connor. I would love to have his input because he could very well be a distant cousin. I could not find a contact for him.

Thank you, Diana

Diana:

I only have a few minutes. I can ask our HQ to contact Steve. 

Roger

Diana:

Some history of the RC church in Duagh. Any records prior to 1819 were likely lost.

Roger

http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/media/uploads/History%20of%20Duagh(1).pdf

Diana:

My contact at Ireland XO HQ told me that she has benn trying to contact Steve O'Connor for weeks with no success. Maybe he has a new e-mail address.

Roger

Diana,

I've received your email. But I don't think you have received mine. I've sent attachements to the email address you gave me. No fail to deliver message came my way. So maybe they have gone into your spam folder.

Tom

Tom,

Your email in not in my junk mail. Let's try again. Diana