Alice, Godfrey, Richard and Mary Ann Hogan arrived in New Zealand together in 1865. In records in NZ they were described as having come from Castlegregory, I thought they could be siblings but I believe Mary Ann's father was Michael a stonemason, and Richard's father possibly a builder - maybe they were cousins? In the Griffiths Valuation 1852 I found a Michael Hogan in the parish of Killiney, but how do I know it is the correct one? Are there any records that could help me find more trace of their family?
ajpotterz
Friday 1st May 2015, 11:07AMMessage Board Replies
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Dear AJ, can you tell us why you believe that Michael was a stonemason. I have found a Michael Hogan of Main St. Castlegregory who is a policeman in this record in 1860
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/6e3bc20031282
If the father was indeed a policeman then the children might not show up in Castlegregory Church records since they may have relocated from another part of Ireland.
Do you know if the family were Catholic or Church of Ireland?
Looking forward to hearing from you again.
Martine
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Mary Ann's death certificate listed her parents as Michael and Mary, father's occupation as stonemason. I know this may not be reliable, but as she was only 37 her husband was probably the informant and he was a school teacher in his 40s, he should have known. The news item in the local newspaper reporting her marriage in 1865 said she was the youngest daughter of the late Michael Hogan of Castlegregory. I don't know if she was Catholic, I assumed not because she married the son of an English Wesleyan missionery, and was buried by a Wesleyan minister.
I would be very grateful for any help to trace this family, Thanks, Julia
ajpotterz
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I posted 2015 about my great-grandmother Mary Ann Hogan (born about 1850) from Castlegregory, County Kerry who arrived in New Zealand in 1865 with Richard Hogan b.1847, Alice Hogan and Godfrey Hogan b.1847. The only Hogan record found there was Elizabeth Hogan who married John Brunskill in 1860 in Killiney Parish. I was unsure how this fitted so left it, there didn't seem to be any birth records available. I believe they may have been Church of Ireland, in NZ Mary Ann married the son of a Wesleyan missionary in a Wesleyan Church.
Now I find I have a DNA connection to descendants of George Patrick Hogan born in Adare, Limerick (according to his army record, parents Michael Hogan and Alice Browne) and his sister Esther Hogan, all these people ended up in NZ, Esther came on the same ship as John and Elizabeth Brunskill and 3 small children, and I am beginning to believe that perhaps they may all be siblings (or cousins perhaps) all born in Adare, Limerick, the younger ones having moved to Castlegregory before emigrating, as newspaper reports in NZ have said Mary Ann, Richard and Esther were from there, not that they were born there. How can I find records that will confirm these dates and places, should I post this in Limerick as well?
Thanks for your help Martine,
Julia (ajpotterz)
ajpotterz
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Hi Julia, rootsireland is a fee-paying site that gives access to Church records for most counties in Ireland. I'm in it now and can find 2 Richards but both are Catholic (RC)
1848 Richard son of James Hogan & Mary Slattery St. John's RC Parish, co. Limerick
1846 Richard son of Daniel Hogan & Cath Sheedy St. John's RC Parish Co. Limerick
I can find one record for Michael Hogan & Alice Browne
1834 son Patrick born Jan 16 Adare
The microfiche for the Parish is available online FREE OF CHARGE here https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634902#page/1/mode/1up
I did find another stonemason from Armagh who came to Dingle (so we know they travelled for work), I assume to build the church there http://www.martinebrennan.com/kerry-snippets/mcgaley-armagh-dingle-and-tralee
It would definitely be worthwhile for you to post on the Adare Civil Parish page.
However of interest also is that there is a Hogan family in Castlegregory in 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Castlegregory/Fahamore__Fahamore/1408216/
I hope this gives you some options for research.
Best wishes
Martine
PS Re John Brunskell (On irishgenealogy.ie there are Civil Registration records for Brunskill also FREE)
Griffith's Valuation Record Information
TenantFamily Name 1BRUNSKILL
Forename 1JOHN
PrefixREV
LandlordFamily Name 2O'KEANEForename 2JOHNPrefixREVLocationCountyKERRYBaronyCORKAGUINYUnionDINGLEParishKILLINEYTownlandMARTRAMANEPlace NameTRALEE ROADPlace TypeOTHERPublication DetailsPosition on Page15Printing Date1852
Griffith's Valuation Record Information
TenantFamily Name 1BRUNSKILLForename 1JOHNPrefixREVLandlordFamily Name 2MCCARTHYForename 2DANIELLocationCountyKERRYBaronyCORKAGUINYUnionDINGLEParishKILLINEYTownlandMARTRAMANEPlace NameMAIN STREETPlace TypeOTHERPublication DetailsPosition on Page39Printing Date1852
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