I am looking for descendants, and ancestors, of my g’g’grandmother Mary Elizabeth McCabe (daughter of Peter McCabe), who married a Peter McLean some time prior to 1865. Based on vital records in New York, and some family manuscripts, we believe that she came from County Monaghan, Ireland, the child of Elizabeth and Peter McCabe. If we are reading her handwriting correctly, the family emigrated from “De Davinel”,or “DeDaventte” Scotstown, County Monaghan.
Known family members, in 1882, were Ellen McLean (born 1866) Mary Elizabeth (1867) and Patrick (1868). Both mother and daughter were named Mary Elizabeth, and seem to have used the nickname Lizzy at various times. I am uncertain if there was an additional son named Peter as well. We have been unable to locate them in Irish, Scottish or English vital records or Census reports.
The mtDNA is H7D2A. The family were practicing Catholics in the US, but various Irish researchers we have engaged suggested that Peter McLean may have been Protestant.
Richard DeLotto
Wednesday 5th Aug 2015, 07:57PMMessage Board Replies
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Richard,
The place names you have mentioned ie De Davinel and De Davenette strike me as likely being an attempt to record Tedavnet (sometimes Tydavnet), the name of the parish that Scotstown is situated in, by someone unfamiliar with the name. If Peter & Mary married in the RC faith, then the parish marriage records start in 1825 and are on-line on the NLI site:
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes
I can see why other researchers have suggested that Peter McClean may have been either Presbyterian or Church of Ireland, as all the McCleans in the 1901 census for Co Monaghan were of those two denominations. None were RC. If your couple married in Tedavnet Church of Ireland then that set of records starts in 1822. If they married in the Presbyterian faith then Ballyalbany Pres Church has marriage records from 1807. Copies of both the COI and Presbyterian records are held in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. They are not on-line and a personal visit is required to view them. However the marriage took place around 1864/1865 it should be in the statutory records. I can’t see any sign of it. That would suggest it was either omitted from the stat records, has been mistranscribed or took place outside Ireland. An RC marriage prior to 1864 wouldn’t be in the stat records and so you should check the parish records for that, but it sounds as though that may already have been done.
I can see a Mary Jane M’Lean birth registered in Monaghan in 1867 (Vol 13, page 284) but otherwise I can’t see any births that match the information that you have given for the children. Perhaps the marriage and the births took place outside Ireland?
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Wednesday 5th Aug 2015, 09:11PM -
Elwyn--
Thank you for your response! I have begun to re-research based on the suppostion that while an ancestor MAY have come from Scotstown, the McLean/McCabe wedding and family growth occured elsewhere. I am acceptably certain that we have found them on the passenger manifest of the steamship Wyoming, Port of New York, arriving May 30, 1882, which steamed from England to Ireland, then directly to New York.. Nothing has come up in UK, Irish or Scottish records pre-embarkation either.
Pryesbetyrian just hadn't occured to me... I will re-check. Thanks for the lead!
Richard DeLotto
Friday 7th Aug 2015, 06:39PM