Daniel and Bradget were married in Melbourne Australia 23/10/1853 both listed from Tipperary.
Daniel age 28 Father name Conellius Ryan Mother Anne Ryan .Bridget age 23 Father name Robert Hartnet Mother Johanna Ryan.Very nice Gentleman helped me coulpe weeks ago hope you are still out there . Regards Fay
Sunday 4th May 2014, 04:34AM
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Fay:
The 1850 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing shows 54 Cornelius Ryan entries. There was only one Harnet (and variants) listed-- a Richard Harnett of Derrybane townland Ballymackey civil parish. One of the 54 Cornelius Ryans was also from Ballymackey parish. You search the Griffiths at www.askaboutireland.ie
I have to add some caveats. First, we don't know whether Cornelius and Robert were living in 1850 and leasing land. Second, Harnett name was Richard not Robert but possibly Robert was from the same area. Third, Daniel and Bridget may not have known each other in Ireland but met and married in Australia.
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Just did a search on the Hartnett name and found that Harnett seems to be a variant .In the Tithe applotments for 1832 ther is a Robert Harnett in the townland of Rosnamulteeny in Glankeen parish -see Link
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587445/00…
Two younger members of this family William Hartnet and Robert Hartnet show up in the court records in 1865 both from Rossnamulteeny and you can see what is possibly the later family in the 1901 and 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Glenkeen/Ros…
Other Hartnett records on familys earch.org show a William Hartnett birth 8 jun 1868 Father Robert Hartnett and Mary Donoghue. Borrisoleigh registration district would cover Glankeen parish
See link
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5YZ-668
Getting this birth cert from www.groireland.ie would confirm if this was the same family- I realise this is all circumstantial but may prove relevant.
Good Luck
Clare
added - just notied that Borrisoleigh R.c. parish records go back to 1814 but are not online yet at roots ireland. They are available in the National Library Dublin on microfilm and when I have time will have a look to see what I can find.
Clare
Clare Tuohy
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Fay
I got to look at the Borrisoleigh RC parish records and it seems that the Harnett/Hartnett family from Rosnamulteeny is Bridget's family.
Marriage 7 Sept 1823 Robert Harnett of Rosnamulteen to Judy Ryan of what I think is Lismakeeve (Judy and Johanna are often used intechangeably)
I have taken photos of some of the entries and if you let me have your e-mail address will send them to you.
Baptisms
3 Nov 1825 Biddy (Shortened version of Bridget) of Bob Harnett and Judy Ryan Sprs William Halloran & Mary Small Ileigh
Note Bridget is 5 years older than in marriage cert - may be because Daniel's age shows as younger than on cert- see below.
10 Jun 1827 Eliza of same parents Sprs R? Harnett & Biddy Ryan Ileigh
11 Apr 1830 William of same parents Sprs Mick Ryan & Fanny Ryan Rosnamulteeny
18 Dec 1832 Peggy (shortened version of Margaret) of same parents Sprs John Ryan & Mary Harnett Rusnamulteeny.
I only searched from 1814 - 1832
Other Harnett/Hartnett families
John Harnett & Mary Cashin son Robert 30 Jan 1829 address Ballaroon
John Harnett & Kitty Quinlan son William 14 Oct 1832 Sprs John Ellen Walsh townland Pallis - rest difficult to read.
I found a marriage 16 Feb 1817 in the parish records for a Cornelius Ryan Labr (labourer) of the parish of Drum to Anne Ryan of Knockbrack Witnesses Tim Ryan & Hanna illegible and illegible Russell
Not finding any baptisms for children of this couple - I Looked on rootsireland.ie in Drum parish and found the following in the database index - to check them out you would have to buy credits but it is a good possibility.
Baptisms for children of Conor Ryan and Anna Ryan in Drum parish
Thomas 1818
Mary 1823
Michael 1826
Daniel 1828 - if this is the correct Daniel then he was younger than Bridget by 3 years
Margaret 1828 - twins?
Laurence 1830
Anne 1834.
Hope this is of help
Regards
Clare
Clare Tuohy
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Fay
I got to look at the Borrisoleigh RC parish records and it seems that the Harnett/Hartnett family from Rosnamulteeny is Bridget's family.
Marriage 7 Sept 1823 Robert Harnett of Rosnamulteen to Judy Ryan of what I think is Lismakeeve (Judy and Johanna are often used intechangeably)
I have taken photos of some of the entries and if you let me have your e-mail address will send them to you.
Baptisms
3 Nov 1825 Biddy (Shortened version of Bridget) of Bob Harnett and Judy Ryan Sprs William Halloran & Mary Small Ileigh
Note Bridget is 5 years older than in marriage cert - may be because Daniel's age shows as younger than on cert- see below.
10 Jun 1827 Eliza of same parents Sprs R? Harnett & Biddy Ryan Ileigh
11 Apr 1830 William of same parents Sprs Mick Ryan & Fanny Ryan Rosnamulteeny
18 Dec 1832 Peggy (shortened version of Margaret) of same parents Sprs John Ryan & Mary Harnett Rusnamulteeny.
I only searched from 1814 - 1832
Other Harnett/Hartnett families
John Harnett & Mary Cashin son Robert 30 Jan 1829 address Ballaroon
John Harnett & Kitty Quinlan son William 14 Oct 1832 Sprs John Ellen Walsh townland Pallis - rest difficult to read.
I found a marriage 16 Feb 1817 in the parish records for a Cornelius Ryan Labr (labourer) of the parish of Drum to Anne Ryan of Knockbrack Witnesses Tim Ryan & Hanna illegible and illegible Russell
Not finding any baptisms for children of this couple - I Looked on rootsireland.ie in Drum parish and found the following in the database index - to check them out you would have to buy credits but it is a good possibility.
Baptisms for children of Conor Ryan and Anna Ryan in Drum parish
Thomas 1818
Mary 1823
Michael 1826
Daniel 1828 - if this is the correct Daniel then he was younger than Bridget by 3 years
Margaret 1828 - twins?
Laurence 1830
Anne 1834.
Hope this is of help
Regards
Clare
Clare Tuohy