Mary Hillock and William Miller

What townlands (addresses) are given on the  1853 marriage certificate? What were the resp[ective father's names and occupations? What church (denomination) did they marry in?

I haven't sent for it yet.  I just found their marriage and immigration.   This is my first entry into Irish genealogy but I have attended many courses.  This is my first lead into where they come from.   

Where would I send for the marriage certificate.  I know that Northern Ireland has a separate records office.

Thank you for your reply!

Shirley       

I haven't sent for it yet.  I just found their marriage and immigration.   This is my first entry into Irish genealogy but I have attended many courses.  This is my first lead into where they come from.   

Where would I send for the marriage certificate.  I know that Northern Ireland has a separate records office.

Thank you for your reply!

Shirley       

I haven't sent for it yet.  I just found their marriage and immigration.   This is my first entry into Irish genealogy but I have attended many courses.  This is my first lead into where they come from.   

Where would I send for the marriage certificate.  I know that Northern Ireland has a separate records office.

Thank you for your reply!

Shirley       

I haven't sent for it yet.  I just found their marriage and immigration.   This is my first entry into Irish genealogy but I have attended many courses.  This is my first lead into where they come from.   

Where would I send for the marriage certificate.  I know that Northern Ireland has a separate records office.

Thank you for your reply!

Shirley       

I haven't sent for it yet.  I just found their marriage and immigration.   This is my first entry into Irish genealogy but I have attended many courses.  This is my first lead into where they come from.   

Where would I send for the marriage certificate.  I know that Northern Ireland has a separate records office.

Thank you for your reply!

Shirley       

Shirley,

For a marriage in 1853 in what is now N. Ireland, you have a choice where you get the certificate. You can view it on-line for ?2 on the GRONI website. (Registrar General for Northern Ireland). You need to register and buy some credits. Then use the search registrations option:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

Or you can order a photocopy from GRO Roscommon (the Registrar General for the Republic of Ireland. They have copies of births, deaths & marriages for what is now Northern Ireland up to 1921). A photocopy from them will cost ?4.

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx

You have to download and print off the form. Then either post or fax it back to them. You can?t e-mail it to them. However if you want them to e-mail the cert to back to you, they will do that, so tick the relevant box.

Put the reference details on the form (anywhere). (These are Omagh 1853 Volume 9, page 424). Don?t worry about leaving some boxes blank. As long as GRO have the location, name(s), year, quarter (where there is one), volume and page number they should find it.

Tradition was to marry in the bride?s church (which will be on the certificate except where it was a Registry Office marriage). That church may be the place to look for her baptism and that of any siblings.

For info, the marriage is registered as being between William Millar and Mary Hillocks

Elwyn

Thank you very much!

I will order it from GRONI today.

I noticed that the marriage record on Family Search was Millar but I thought it might have been a transcription error.

My William Miller used Miller.  So, I am almost certain that I have the right marriage but one never knows until definitive proof has been found.  I could be on the wrong track. 

I do know that another researcher has them (possibly) setlling in Peel County, Ontario.  That is possible but mine ultimately settled in Simcoe County, Ontario.

There are also ties to the Osborne family and I have found one of their descendants in Toronto.   Sounds like I need to knock heads with him.

I have duplicated messages.  Does anyone know how to delete the duplicates?

Shirley

That GRONI link is broken and it is 15 pound.

Thank you Ahoghill Antrim,

The residence is Edergole, Drumragh for both I believe (do)

The Church was St Columba Church of Ireland

William Millar was a Mason

Thomas Hillocks was a Tailor

Witnesses:  Jim? Campbell  and  Raloq, Naloq or Ralob, Nalob Johnstone

No mention of the Townland.

Shirley

The townland appears to have been Edergoole. That?s split into Upper & Lower. It?s about 4 miles south of Omagh. I  looked at Griffiths Valuation for 1860 but there?s no sign of either the Millar/Miller or Hillock(s) family there. They may have moved since 1853 or they may have been in properties of too low a value to be listed in Griffiths.

Drumragh Church of Ireland?s baptism records start in 1901 (marriages 1802), so you may be able to trace Mary?s baptism and that of any siblings in those records. There?s a copy on the rootsireland site (pay to view) or you can also access them in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast free of charge, if you go in person.

Keep an open mind on the spelling of the surnames. In the mid 1800s when most of the population were barely literate, accurate spelling wasn?t a high priority. Expect it to vary in official records.

I gave it a quick try and found nothing.

I know these searches require time and patience so I will try again a little later.

I did notice a William Osborne In Upper Edergoole.

James Hillock b 1855 married Mary Osborne b 1859 on January 1881 in Creemore, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada. Her parents are named as William and Jane Osborne.

I also noted a Rev. Mungo N. Thompson in Aghkamoylr. I believe that is the minister who married William Millar and Mary Hillocks in 1853. Not sure if that is significant.

Mary (Hillocks) Millar and William Millar immigrated to Canada in 1856 and sailed with Thomas Hillocks and family. Mary was their oldest child.

They wouldn't be on the 1860 Griffith's valuation.

I have a note from another researcher that the Hillocks were from Derry.

I have found the Hillocks in Simcoe County, Ontario in 1861 and in Peel County in 1871. The Millers are in Simcoe county, Ontario in 1871.

I think that baptism records are about all that are likely to exist for the family. There are no other records that I can suggest from that period that might mention them.

This might add some light to the Hillock family:

"In a small booklet titled,"A Genealogy of the
Hillock Family", by Willfred M.Hillock(1929-1996),published privately,page 34.
"The Hillocks were members of the MacDonald Clan when the clan joined Robert The Bruce to repel the English at the battle of Bannockbum, near Sterling Castle, on June 23-24.1324. One small family group(said to be 16) of the MacDonalds bravely defended a small hill the English were trying to capture, and after the Scottish victory,King Robert honored them by giving them their own name,"Hillock". The name Bannerman was given at the same time to the family of a man who bravely defended the flag.
The two spellings, Hillock and Hillocks, were used interchangeably for many years. Most Hillocks were Presbyterians. Many left Scotland for Ireland after the massacre of Glencoe in 1692 and again after the battle of Colloden in 1746. Many of the Hillocks in the United States came directly from Scotland, mainly for religious or political reasons, but many came from Ireland, especially after the potato famine of 1846."

Wilfred did not live to find his Hillock ancestor that first came to North America.
Just two years ago this family were found,
landing in Quebec City,Canada in 1856 from
Derry,Ireland."
Rob Woods