HAYES, Clonmel, Tipperary

Hi Callie,

You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) https://familysearch.org/  . Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at.  The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. The tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm . Valuations office in Dublin (http://www.valoff.ie) will have a record of the land registry from 1855 to modern times. This will assist in seeing what happened to any land the family may have owned (as it usually passed on to a relation).

Church records may be of interest to you as well. Church of Ireland parish registers for the period up to 1870 are public records. Registers are available for about one third of the parishes, however many were destroyed in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922. Most are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. A list of all surviving registers is available in the National Archives. http://ireland.anglican.org/about/42 and http://www.nationalarchives.ie/ . If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for more assistance.

Sources of genealogical information for Co Tipperary which are available for a fee are http://tipperarysouth.rootsireland.ie/ and http://tipperarynorth.rootsireland.ie/ .

I wish you the best of luck with your search. 

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Kind regards,

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Ireland Reaching Out

cynoconnor

thank you so much for all of the help, advise & suggestions.  i have visited many of the sites mentioned.  in fact-i found the names, birth dates of the daughters at rootsireland.ie.  Michael & Judith's son, Patrick married Ellen Meskill-daughter of Bartholomew & Mary (Kennedy)-in Boston, MA   i was sent information stating that a Bartholomew Meskill  of Clonmel, (possibly my ggrandmother's father or grandfather) died in the workhouse in Clonmel in 1877--the workhouse was not far from his home in Inishlounaght (*Griffith's). Michael Hayes-listed in a rowhouse (?) at Toberaheena,  was reported not far from where Bart lived.  perhaps the Hayes, Meskill families were friends in Ireland-making the marriage in the US destined to happen. 

i  will continue to search, visiting the sites you mentioned, hoping to get more substantial confirmation.  thank you again & good luck with you own search.

callie