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Looking specifically for the birth and baptism of Jane Henry, daughter of Hugh Henry and Mary Ann Monford c1823 in Monaghan (written as Monaham, Ireland) according to the entry for Jane Barnes wife of Andrew Barnes in the 1871 Census for Walsall in the English Midlands.

 

Hugh and Mary had two other children in Grange of Nilteen, Antrim - James in 1826 and Mary Ann in 1830. (Source Donegore First Presbyterian Church in
County Antrim). A son Thomas was supposedly born in Ireland in 1837 and a daughter Sarah Ann in 1841. The family (mainly brick makers) probably moved to England c1850 and lived in the Midlands (Walsall area and then some moved to Wolverhampton)

 

Any response to the above welcome plus any information on brick making in the Monaghan/Antrim area.

DMT2013

Saturday 18th May 2013, 10:40AM

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  • Hi,

    Thank you for your message.

    Unfortunately, it may be difficult to find information without a more specific place of origin. Most Irish record sources- church records, land records, census records- are based on specific locations. Until you know a specific location within Ireland, preferably a parish or placename, it may be difficult to do anything more with these records.

    Do you have any documentation pertaining to the family that mentions any place names in Monaghan at all? This can include wills, marriage/death records,census records, letters, diary entries etc.

    There are some places where you can search online, however it may be difficult to discern whether the results are relevant to your family or not without more information:

    www.familysearch.org has a huge database of genealogical records including some church records for Ireland.

    www.rootsireland.ie have a large collection of Irish Church records, however you have to pay to use this site.

    Have you heard of the Tithe Applotment Books? These are land records that were compiled between 1823 and 1837 in order to determine the amount which occupiers of agricultural holdings should pay in tithes to the Church of Ireland. They do not give any genealogical information but can sometimes be used to tie a person to a specific place. I did a search for Hugh in Monaghan and one result came back:

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=henry&firstname=Hugh&county=Monaghan&parish=&townland=&search=Search

    Although there is no way of knowing whether this is your Hugh it may provide a starting point for your search. You could try looking for church records from the parish.  Presbyterian registers are held in three main locations: in local custody, in the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI) http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm and at the Presbyterian Historical Society http://www.presbyterianhistoryireland.com in Belfast. PRONI has microfilm copies of almost all registers in Northern Ireland and also lists of records held by the Presbyterian Historical Society. For the rest of Ireland, almost all records are in local custody. It can difficult to locate these as many congregations in the South have moved, amalgamated, or simply disappeared over the last sixty years.

    Some other websites that you may find useful are:

    The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

    The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    The National Archives UK ? genealogy search: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/

    The Public Records Office of Northern Ireland http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm

    Irish Times: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/index.htm

    Monaghan Tourism: http://www.monaghantourism.com/people.aspx

    Genealogy links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/monaghan/index.html

    Alternatively, you could contact Monaghan Genealogy for assistance, however a fee may apply. Here is their email: theomcmahon@eircom.net

    I hope this is helpful. Remember to post as much information as you can with regard to the people you are researching. The more information you post, the more likely it is that one of our volunteers will be able to advise or assist you. Also include information concerning which sources you may have already used so others may further your search.

    Kind regards,

    Genealogy Support

     

    Tuesday 18th Jun 2013, 03:30PM

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