I am honestly trying to find out where my John Grace that ended up in Biddulph Township, Ontario,Canada in 1843 came from. I think he married his wife Bridget Carroll in Ireland first before coming across in 1843. I am only going by family lore and the fact that most people that settled in his area in Canada came from around Tipperary. There was a Patrick Grace/Bridget Blake family, that I have not been able to confirm is related or not, that settled in the same area in Canada. I have been able to confirm Patrick/Bridget were married in Terryglass on 04 Feb 1838. I have also found some of their childrens birth records in Carrig, Monsea,Tipperary. I have not found any data on John Grace/ Bridget Carroll in Ireland yet. It could be possible that John and Bridget were married in Canada but I have not found a record yet. Only their childrens Canadien birth records. Any help or ideas would be appreciated.
remarques
Friday 30th Aug 2013, 01:50AMMessage Board Replies
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Hi-I am a volunteer for Ireland Reaching Out for Monsea Parish, ans will look into this for you.
Coincidentally, I have a lot of Grace records for Monsea- John and Bridget Carroll do not appear.
the Parish records only start from 1835 in Monsea -
the only information I have at hand is that a Winifred Grace from Carrig married Dennis Hobbins - their children emigrated to Biddulph in the 1850s..
I did a quick check in www.rootsireland.ie for marriages in North Tipperary under John Grace- in 1844 a John Grace married a Bridget Connell - might be worth a try to see if Connell is a transcription error for Carroll. Some of the registers are hard to read.....
Kind regards
Monsea Tipperary
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Hi: Thank you for the reply. I am interested in what you mention about Winifred Grace. I wonder which family she may be related to. The Patrick Grace/Bridget Blake family has, on the 1901 Canadien census, a middle child named Michael it says his immigration to Canada year is 1849. The 1st child born in Canada is a James Grace born 12/24/1851.
The John Grace/Bridget Carroll familys Canadien records start around the mid 1840s
I did see that John Grace/Bridget Connell record you speak of but every record I have found in Canada is spellen either Carroll or Carrol.
Do not know if this will help if you use Irish Naming Patterns but John Grace/Bridget/Carrolls' first son is named is named Dennis and 1st daughters name is Catherine and 2nd daughter is named Mariah.
Patrick Grace/ Bridget Blakes 1st son is named Patrick and only daughters name is Mary
Thank you again
remarques
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Hi-
It is possible that Winifred Grace and Patrick Grace are brother and sister. I have further information on both that indicates they may be. If you email me at monseatipperary@irelandxo.com. I can send you on further info.
i looked in parish registers for John Grace and Bridget Connell to see if it was Carroll - but could not find them in 1844- will look again .
it is possible that John Grace did come from Monsea parish as some families did migrate to Biddulph in the 1840s- there was a connection with Hodgins in this parish.
the naming patterns of Dennis in John Graces family however raises a question of whether he is from this parish- there are no Dennis in any other Grace families.
kind regards
Monsea Tipperary
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Monsea Tipperary
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John Grace and Bridget CarrollThese people were my Great Great Grandparents.
Mariah Grace married Martin Hogan
Katherine Hogan married John Joseph Kenny
Their daughter Anna Marie Kenny was my mother.
I believe the 1844 Marriage record you mentioned on Roots Ireland (20 Feb 1844) is correct, but Bridget Carrolls name was incorectly transcribed.
I am also interested if there is a connection to Patrick and Bridget (Blake) Grace as they did live very close to other family members.
I look forward to learning more Thanks
Wayne Davey
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Hi Wayne re the marriage record on rootsireland..ie on the 20th Feb 1844 - unfortunately this is a transcription error . I looked up the parish register, and in fact the John Grace and Bridget Conell in question were witnesses to a marriage- not bride and groom.
if you would like to email me at monsea@irelandxo.com. I could send you more information
many thanks
Monsea Tipperary
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Hi Mark
I sent a reply to the email address attached to your message, but in came you don't get it my email is:
Also I do have a couple of photos of relatives from Bad Ax Michigan I can send you.
Wayne