Any information on Patrick Shanahan 1849/1851 and his ancestors

Lynn:

Generally, ages in the 1901 and 1911 censuses were not consistent. Usually the 1901 census age was understated. The Old Age Pension program was put in place in 1908-1909 and people started showing their real age in the 1911 census. Patrick and Margaret were married in 1883. I didn't know if the Ancestry data was wrong or 1893 was a typo. I'm trying to pull up the civil marriage index record but my source is having systems problems. The actual marriage record will show the names of the fathers of the bride and groom and where the bride and groom were living when married. If you don't have the actual record and want a copy, I can explain the process.

I also looked at the 1852 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Duagh civil parish. I did not find any Shanahans in Knockalougha townland but there were 3 Lyons listings: Denis, Jeremiah and Thomas. I'm wondering if one of the three was the father of Margaret and Patrick and Margaret inherited the farm. See link below.

Roger McDonnell

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/kerry/duagh.htm

Hi,

Thanks for the reply..oops I meant 1883 for the marriage and not 93. I know they got married in Duagh in  the Parish Church both RC but thats it at the moment

I wont be able to get the marriage cert till end of month. I have a list of certs I need and slowly working my through them at 20 euros a pop! Will email GRO in Dublin and get it then.

Startng to search for the marriages of both sets of parents and their dobs so will continue with all searches. I have Shanahan's, Galways and Carolans on my dads side too, not to mention my mums side who were Scottish and Lancashire.

The search goes on......

You don?t need to pay ?20 per certificate. You can get a photocopy for ?4. Tick the relevant box on the order form.

Lynn:

I had the same reaction as Elwyn (Ahoghill Antrim). Here are some instructions.

Go to this link http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx In the middle of the page there are links for birth, marriage or death certificates. Hit the link for the form you want. You will likely get a screen asking for a User Name and Password. (This is a program bug that the GRO has to correct). Hit cancel and the appropriate form should come up. Print the form and complete the requested information. Also provide the information from the index record--quarter/year of the event. registration district and the volume and page number where the event is recorded. Make sure you ask for a copy which costs around 4 euros. ( A cert costs closer to 20 euros). You can also ask the GRO to e-mail the copy back to you.

Roger

Thanks for that, I already knew about the GRO forms, im not keen on sending my card details via fax or post hence would rather pay the full fee!

If you don?t want to give your card details out, then just stick a 5 euro note in the envelope instead. That works fine provided  you are not bothered about the ?1 change.

Elwyn

Aah thanks for that tip...ill try that.

Lynn, If you are still looking for information, Patrick Shanahan the son of Patrick Shanahan and Margaret Lyons was interviewed by Maurice O'Keeffe for his Life and Lore Audio Books series and is available for download at  https://www.irishlifeandlore.com/product/patrick-shanahan-b-1927/

In Disk 3  he talks about his ancestors going back to 1860 and where they came from before they settled in Knockalougha. Patrick died in 2013 but still has family in Knockalougha.

Pazbhan