Michael Bain, my Great Great Grandad

Dear Rob

I have passed your query to our Tipperary volunteers. I hope they will be in touch shortly

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support 

Hi Clare,

Thanks very much.

Rob

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info and the one for Eliza is promising. In my tree I have her down as Micheal's sister who married a Benjamin Hall, however the fathers name is not the same and I don't have any record of their mother. Jaseph Bain is the name I have got but who knows if this is correct. The Birth date I have for Eliza is 1824, but again who says that is correct.

Is there anywhere that may show the passengers that went out to South Africa?

Best Regards

Rob

Hi there, Rob

It turns out that Michael Bain and Maria Talbot are my great-great-great grand-parents, through John Josiah Bain --> Lilian Mary Maria Bain --> Myrtle Kathleen Osborne --> Ian Rawson Chapman (my biological father).

I wonder if you would like to collaborate, although I am only one week into drawing up my family tree?

If so, please email me at evansnyman2@gmail.com

South Africans are only just starting to digitise their records, and I know that they are working on capturing the passenger lists. I will see if I can track their shipping movements from this end.

Evan Snyman

Johannesburg, South Africa

Hi again

I was looking at our various shipping lists and then I recalled that their movement would have coincided with a big immigrations movement that we call the 1820 Settlers. It seems that Thomas Fancutt was also among the Settlers and so was Michael Bain. I will ook into this further - eg I think that the codes refer to our archives...

Evan

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http://www.southafricansettlers.com/?cat=30

Bain or Talbot, Maria

Last Name:   Bain (nee Talbot
First Name:   Maria
Date of Birth:   20 Aug 1814 chr. 4 Sep 1814
Place of Birth:   Whitechapel, London, England
Parents – Father:   John Stuart Talbot (q.v.)
Parents – Mother:  Priscilla Purcell
Name of Spouse:  1) Thomas Fancutt 2) Michael Bain (q.v.)
Marriage Date:   1) 2 Jun 1834
Marriage Place:
Date of Death:    9 Mar 1871 age 57
Place of Death:  Buffels Thorns, Cape  

Notes:   DN 6933/1871.  IGI.  Children:

John Josias Bain 25

Michael Edward Bain 23

Walter Carden Bain 18

Alexander Bain 15

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http://www.southafricansettlers.com/?cat=16&paged=6

Fancutt, Thomas

Last Name:  Fancutt
First Name:  Thomas
Date of Birth:  1791
Place of Birth:  Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Parents – Father:  Thomas Fancutt
Parents – Mother:  Mary
Spouse:  Ann
Marriage Date:
Marriage Place:
Date of Death:  10 Mar 1843
Place of Death:  at his home on New Street.

Notes:  Clark’s party of 1820 settlers.  DN 5992/1843.  Children: 

Louisa 1808 marr. John Hayter
Thomas chr. 21 Jun 1810 Great Queen Street Lincolns Inn Fields Wesleyan, Holborn, London, deceased by 1843.

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http://www.southafricansettlers.com/?cat=12&paged=5

Bain, Michael

Last Name:   Bain
First Name:   Michael
Date of Birth:   1814
Place of Birth:  Tipperary, Ireland
Parents – Father:   Joseph Bain
Parents – Mother:  M.
Name of Spouse:   J. J.
Marriage Date:
Marriage Place:
Date of Death:   2 Jun 1868 age 54
Place of Death:   Queenstown, Cape  

Notes:   DN 4481/1868.  Children:

John Josias, major

Michael Edward, major

Walter Carden Alexander, minor

Me again

According to this family tree there is a wedding certificate for Eliza Bain in the Grahamstown Anglican church. She must have been Michael's sister/

http://1820settlers.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I68329&tree=ma…

Evan