My Name is Patti Hartigan and I'm looking to link up with the Coll family that used to live at Maindstone Castle, Dromin.
My great grandmother was Catherine Coll. I know she married Luke Hartigan on 8/2/1876 at Dromin when she was 31. She died in Crosshaven Co. Cork 9/8/1904 age 59. The Luke/Catherine family lived & farmed at Fort (over near Charleville) where the Hartigans farmed for generations.
I have no birth details for Catherine, but her son Daniel lived with the Colls at Maidstone Castle after her death and I know he had Coll cousins Robert, Patrick and Owen Coll. A search of Dromin church records did not come up with Catherine's birth/baptism.
Catherine & Luke had children: Cornelius, Patrick, Owen, Daniel, Sarah, Maude, Lizzie.
If the second son is named after the maternal father then I've assumed Catherine's father was Patrick Coll.
Larry Roche was also a cousin of Daniel Hartigan, who is my grandfather. When I visited Dromin I was able to meet with a fabulous lady who was best friends with Larry's daughter. Through her I was able to purchase several copies of Larry's book about Dromin. It's a great read.
So any help with the Colls would be greatly appreciated.
pattihartigan
Sunday 7th Sep 2014, 12:20PMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Patti
There is a marriage record of Luke & Catherine in Limerick 1876 on www.rootsireland.ie/
The site charges to view the full record which would have the parish (which you know) but MAYBE also the parents' names
I tried findmypastireland but they don't have it. However the free site www.irishgenealogy has it but there are no parents' names!!
There are 8 birth/baptism records for Catherine Coll 1846 + - 1year (or surname variants) on rootsireland but none is from Limerick:
Coll 1846 Roscommon Cull 1846 Waterford Cull 1846 Down Coll 1845 Tipperary Coll 1845 Waterford Cull 1845 Cull 1845 Cork Cull 1845 Down
I couldn't see any relevant Colls in Griffiths Valuation 1848-64 (free)
The Tithe Applotments (free) 1823-37 have 117 Colls including 3 Patricks in Dromin 1833
No luck on ancestry.com or Family Serach!
Not sure if you want to risk paying for the rootsireland record of the marriage in the hope it will have her father's name when the other free one didn't
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Monday 8th Sep 2014, 05:30AM -
Hello Coll
Thank you for your help.
I've checked the Dromin parish records for Catherine's marriage but no first names for parents. And no sign of her baptism/birth. She may have been born elsewhere so I will check out records for her siblings in case there's a clue there.
I have the rootsireland record aswell, no first names of parents there either.
Good job I like a mystery!
Patti
pattihartigan
Monday 8th Sep 2014, 06:56PM -
Hello Coll
Thank you for your help.
I've checked the Dromin parish records for Catherine's marriage but no first names for parents. And no sign of her baptism/birth. She may have been born elsewhere so I will check out records for her siblings in case there's a clue there.
I have the rootsireland record aswell, no first names of parents there either.
Good job I like a mystery!
Patti
pattihartigan
Monday 8th Sep 2014, 06:56PM -
Hello Coll
Thank you for your help.
I've checked the Dromin parish records for Catherine's marriage but no first names for parents. And no sign of her baptism/birth. She may have been born elsewhere so I will check out records for her siblings in case there's a clue there.
I have the rootsireland record aswell, no first names of parents there either.
Good job I like a mystery!
Patti
pattihartigan
Monday 8th Sep 2014, 06:56PM -
Hello Coll
Thank you for your help.
I've checked the Dromin parish records for Catherine's marriage but no first names for parents. And no sign of her baptism/birth. She may have been born elsewhere so I will check out records for her siblings in case there's a clue there.
I have the rootsireland record aswell, no first names of parents there either.
Good job I like a mystery!
Patti
pattihartigan
Monday 8th Sep 2014, 06:56PM -
Thanks Col. Good luck with your search Patti!
Best wishes
Clare Doyle
Genealogy SupportWednesday 10th Sep 2014, 11:33AM -
Hi Patti
I have done quite a lot of research about the Colls in County Limerick and have some information about the Colls from Maidstown Castle. Your Catherine Coll is the daughter of Owen Coll and Elizabeth Lynch and her grandparents were Patrick Coll and Sally Frazer. If you want to email me I can send you what I have. My email is elainehalpin@yahoo.comElaine
elaineh
Wednesday 18th Mar 2015, 01:58PM