Looking for information on ancestors from Kilgeever

Sheila:

The 1856 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Kilgeever parish shows a michael Jennings in Aillemore townland and a Thomas Gavin in Roonah townland. Possibly these are the records for the fathers of John and Mary.

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/mayo/kilgeever.htm

I also went through the Roots Ireland indexes for Kilgeever RC parish and found five children born to John Jennings and Mary. They don't match your records exactly and it is possible that there were two John Jennings' families in the parish ( wife named Mary).

1860 Thady

1860 Honor

1863 John

1865 Bridget

1865 Catherine.

Later this summer the National Library of Ireland plans to place all RC parish registers online for free searching. I would review the Kilgeever records at that time.

Let me know if you have questions.

Roger McDonnell

Dear Roger-

Thank you for the information.  In the 1880 census (copy attached), here in the United States, it did not list those other children.  They did have four other after they immigrated her but most of the 1890 census records were destroyed in a fire so its difficult to track.

Is it possible that the other children that you found were deceased before they came here?

Can you tell me what life would have been like in that part of Ireland at that time?  I have read that people there were very poor and had difficulties finding food etc.

Thanks-

Sheila

Sheila:

Possibly the three children died in ireland. The 1900 census shows how many children the female spouse had and how many were still living. If Mary was still alive in 1900 possibly that info is reflected in the 1900 census. Also, like I indicated in my first note, possibly there were two John Jennings families.

It was very poor in Ireland in the 1860 and especially in Mayo. if you have time, you may want to read excerpts from this book.

Roger

https://books.google.com/books?id=FRNpn4qJELQC&pg=PA170&lpg=PA170&dq=li…

Hi Roger-

Unfortunately, Mary died in 1899.  I will read the excerpts.

Thanks

Hello Sheila, 

The Latter Day Saints (Mormon) records found on the Accony School website at acconyschool.com have records for Kilgeever Parish (Louisburgh, et. al.) that include the baptism records for four (4) children of John Jennings and Mary Gavin that appear to match your records. (Please note that the following dates are for "date of baptism," not "date of birth," although baptisms usually occurred soon after birth due to lower than average infant survival rates and the importance of Roman Catholic baptismal beliefs.)

Bridget Jennings is listed at the daughter of John Jennings and Mary Gavan, and Bridget was baptized on 13 December 1865, with M. Curley, PP, officiating and Anthony Malley and Cecily Lyons as sponsors.

Catherine Jennings is listed as the daughter of John Jennings and Mary Gavin, and Catherine was baptized on 25 March 1865, with P. Ryan, CC, officiating and Patrick Fergus and Honor Kelly as sponsors.

Honor Jennings is listed as the daughter of John Jennings and Mary Gavin, and Honor was baptized on 31 January 1860, with M. Hennelly, CC, officiating and Anthony Malley and Honor Davitt as sponsors.

Thaddeus Jennings is listed as the son of John Jennings and Mary Gavin, and Thaddeus was baptized on 12 August 1860, with M. Hennelly, CC, officiating and Thomas Jennings and Catherine Lyons as sponsors.

There are forty (40) "Jennings" listed as baptized children in these records with seven (7) listed with a "John Jennings" as the father, but only the above four (4) children have "John Jennings" as the father and "Mary Gavan/Gavin" as the mother. So, there could be 36 links to Jennings cousins to also consider (that is, the 40 "Jennings" baptisms minus the four (4) Jennings listed above). Analyzing all the Jennings and Gavin/Gavan listings might also provide you with more potential connections to our usual "needle in a haystack" searches.

Regarding the issue of children appearing in Ireland records, but not appearing in subsequent US records please consider, besides some very serious early death rates, that some of the older children may have been left behind with relatives for lack of funds for their passage to more distant immigration locations. The "fostering" of children with other relatives was fairly common in Ireland during those hard times when parents died or were otherwise unable to maintain the family. ("No money" for everyone's passage to America resulted in my great uncle---the oldest child in the family---being left behind in Ireland with his maternal grandparents.)

By the way, another interesting book that looks at "the hard times" of this period is "Paddy's Lament, Ireland 1846-1847, Prelude to Hatred" which gives a very intense look at the personal lives of the people living through those hard times, rather than a list of government statistics and issues.

Good luck with your research.

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