Looking for connection between christopher irwin B, 1821 and alexander irwin b.1777 , tyrone
charger8
Thursday 24th Jul 2014, 12:08AMMessage Board Replies
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Dear charger8
Have you at a look at the site below or have you tried searching ancestry.com or RootsWeb in family trees or messages?
http://roots-boots.net/ft/irwin.html
Best wishes
Clare Doyle
Best wishes
Genealogy Support
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CHRISTOPHER HAMILTON IRWIN, BORN 1821. MARRIED JANE MCCUTCHEON. LIVED IN CLOGHER AREA. CAME TO ONTARIO CANADA 1849. BURRIED IN WHITFIELD ONTARIO , 1905.
lOOKING FOR MARRIAGE DATE AND PARENTS OF EITHER.
charger8
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I haven't been able to locate a marriage for Christopher and Jane. It might be a good idea, given the early date of the search to keep an eye on the Early Marriage and Birth Index as it is updated regularly. I couldn't locate any baptisms for children of Jane and Christopher.
Are there any obituaries or Newspaper articles your side that could shed some light?
Best wishes
Clare
Genealogy Support
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Christopher Hamilton Irwin and Jane McCutcheon Irwin are my confirmed paternal Great-Great Grandparents. I have been searching for their parents in Ireland for two years. One possibility is that Charles Irwin (Born abt 1800) and his wife Margaret Rutledge (1806), both of whom were born and died in County Tyrone, are Christopher's parents. Can anyone help?
Gail (Irwin) Mooney / CANADA
GM1948
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Gail,
I see a couple of deaths that fit the information you have given. Charles Irwin died 28.9.1866 aged 66 at Bomackatall. His wife Margaret died 8.5.1881 at the same place, aged 75. Her son William was the informant.
There were 2 Irwin families in Bomackatall Upper in the 1901 census. All were Presbyterian (indicating Scottish ancestry).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Bomackatall_Upper/1722644/
This may be the Charles who informed on his parents’ deaths:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Bomackatall_Upper/1722645/
This household has an Irvine in it (being another way of spelling the surname) and so may well be related.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Bomackatall/Bomackatall_Upper/1722648/
Probate abstract from the PRONI wills site:
Probate of the Will of John Irwin late of Bomackatall County Tyrone Farmer who died 27 January 1915 granted at Londonderry to Mary Irwin the Widow
Griffiths Valuation for 1859 shows Charles Irwin on plot 14a in Bomackatall Upper, an 86 acre farm. That farm today is off the Kilmore Rd, between Castlederg & Drumquin.
The nearest Presbyterian church is probably Drumquin. Unfortunately it has no records earlier than 1845.
I don’t see the name Christopher appearing in the Bomackatall families. Irish & Scottish families tended to repeat the same forenames and so you would expect to see the odd Christopher in the families that stayed behind. So I’d wonder if this is the right family.
Christopher was not a common forename in Ireland in the 1800s. There were only 2 in Tyrone in 1901. Both in the same family living in Clare More:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Cecil/Clare_More/1725692/
Clare More is in the parish of Clogher and this family were Church of Ireland. Clogher’s baptism records start in 1763. Marriages in 1777 with gaps. Copy in PRONI in Belfast.
Possibly DNA testing may be a way of matching with others who have additional information about where the family originate. Family Tree DNA reportedly has more people with Ulster roots than any other company. That obviously increases the chances of finding a match. You might want to try them or, if you have already tested, you can transfer your results to them for no fee.
The North of Ireland Family History Society are running an Ulster DNA project and can offer FTDNA testing kits at a reduced price. http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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THANK YOU SO MUCH ELWYN! I am very grateful for this information, and will look over it in depth in order to go farther into my Ireland research. I am deeply touched by your efforts to assist a stranger. Gail / xo
GM1948
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Hello Gail
I'm a descendant of this line of Irwins from Bomacatall (Drumquin) through John (the son of Charles Irwin & Margaret Rutledge) who emigrated to Australia and then New Zealand in the mid 1800s. If you have done a DNA test I'd be happy to compare it to our results to confirm whether this is the right family for you. Our results are already on Ancestry. Feel free to send me a message.
Best wishes!
Amy
AusAmy
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Hi,
Hubbies family are of the Irwin descent. Have Charles and Margaret on tree and John b 1832 County Tyrone marrying Mary Jane McGorlick, also Christopher Irwin born in Omagh, County Tyrone dying in Londonderry Feb 1887. Weird his middle name is Hamilton because that is my husbands surname and many generations later. I know a Hamilton went to live in Northern Ireland.