Looking for the parents of Patrick Kelly and Mary Perdue Kelly married November 5, 1845 in Killenaule Catholic Church

Susan:

Below may be the baptismal record for Mary Perdue. The record is in Killenaule. The Killenaule records go back to 1742 with some gaps. http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0275  I doubt that banns from 1845 would be retained unless you can find them on the register.  The Perdue family lived in Silverfort townland which is in Magorban civil parish to the west of Killenaule.

Roger McDonnell

First name(s)MaryLast namePerdueBirth year-Baptism year1821Baptism date03 May 1821ResidenceSilverfortParishKillenauleAlternative parish namesKillenaule and Moyglass, MoyglassDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)PeterFather's last namePerdueMother's first name(s)MaryMother's last nameWalshRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632748#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptism

Hi Roger,

Thanks so very much for your swift response.  I was googling the name Perdue on the internet and came across the "irelandxo" site.  There was a request from December 15, 2015 - someone was searching for Perdues in Morgoban about the same time my Pat and Mary Perdue Kelly livved there.  I was unable to sign in to 'irelandxo" from the the inquiry posted out on the web so I had to go back to  the original "irelandxo"site and sign in.  Now I can't locate the post inquiring about Perdues in Margoban.  Is there anyway I can search the "irelandxo" site to find this post by the december 15, 2015 date and the last name of Perdue?  I may have found a family connection.  Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Susie Wesley

Susie:

I've been away on vacation but it appears you found the post? if not, let me know and I will assist.

Roger

http://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/message-board/looking-perdue-family

Hi Roger,

Yes, thanks for checking, I did recieve your post.

My next question for you.  I had read that residents of the UK, overall, before they emmigrated to another country, had to fill out paperwork requesting that the government allow them to emmigrate.  I have also read that regarding the Irish Catholics, the governmant realy didn't care what happened to them and if they left Ireland, so be it...it was considered a good thing.

I just don't understand how any family could leave without some documentation trail within their homeland.  I have been searching the incoming vessel lists for the port of New York and there were many Patrick Kelly's born @ 1821 (+/-) that emmigrated to the U.S. after 1862.  Patrick Kelly - everyone has that name, lol.

Keeping the length of the voyage in mind and the planning necessary for a family or individual to make such a trip, those traveling just didn't go up to the local ticket office, buy a ticket and hop on the boat much like one would by a train ticket or pass in today's world?

If they did leave a papertrail, where could I begin to look on the Ireland/England side?

From research, I have gathered that the potatoe famine was not the only reason the Irish Catholic chose to leave Ireland.  I came across one newspapaer article that listed the signers of a petition supporting anti-Catholic activities in the general locale and time period that my 2X's great grandparent lived.  At least 12 Perdues had signed it (2X's great grandmother's maiden name)...one name was Peter, same as her father's.  This really has me wondering.  Is there an Irish website that has microfilmed the old newspapers?  There is one in the U.S. called "old fulton postcards" - containes about 34 million pages of newsprint dating back to 1795.  Most of it pertains to New York state but it also includes California, Illinios, Minnesota, etc.   This is how I searched for the Kelly's once they came to America,  This is also how I know they were a very tight knit family.

My mother told me all the stories when I was a young kid, about 10 years old.  I remember most of them well, except for the date the family traveled to the U.S.  If it was a spider, it would bite me!

I hope you don't mind my additional questions, you have been most hopeful and I am very grateful.  Several genaerations of the family had been searching for any information on Pat and Mary Pedue Kelly for several decades.  With your help, we can now say "found em"

Susie Wesley

Susie:

There are sites which have Irish newspapers from the 19th century. I have a subscription to Find My Past and they have newspapers on their site. There are also other sites but they may all be subscription sites.

Regarding records of emigration from Ireland there is not much info available. Let me e-mail someone from Tipperary and see if he has any insights on whether records may be available around 1870 or so.

Roger

Susie:

My Tipperary contact (Tom Hussey) got back to me and below is his answer.

Roger:

I am not aware of any formal on line records of people leaving the County. There are a number of articles in the Tipperary Historical  Journals  of mass emigration from parishes in the County Tipperary. Clonoulty is one case where up to 600 emigrated to Australia in a relatively period of time.