Researching my great greats who emigrated to the U.S. sometime before 1850. Bernard has been difficult to find. A professional search a few years ago finds one Bernard as a tithe-payer in the townland of Moyarget (Hopkins) in Ramoan parish in 1833. There are also Glass families , which leads me to this area for research. No marriage or birth records have been found , all five children born before 1830. Any direction or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Judy Kirkpatrick Kersch
Wednesday 13th Jul 2016, 09:26PMMessage Board Replies
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Judy,
I assume the family were RC. Unfortunately Ramoan RC parish records only start in 1838 which is too late for Bernard and his siblings. So if that’s where he was born, you probably won’t find documentary evidence of that event.
There were about 12 Kirkpatrick households listed in Ramoan in the 1833 tithes:
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/ramoan-parish.php#.V4bA4Dd9eg0
Looking at Griffiths Valuation for 1861, there were no Kirkpatrick households listed in Moyarget then, indicating the family had moved away.
There are about 23 Kirkpatrick gravestones in Ramoan. They are on the Irelands gravestone project website (pay to view), or perhaps you might get someone to search the graveyard for you.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Wednesday 13th Jul 2016, 10:49PM -
Thank you Elwyn, I appreciate your response. The family was not RC . Also one daughter was married in Ireland before they emigrated some time before 1850. The first US census showing them in Pennsylvania in 1850. Locating that marriage information would be another lead , however, no on-line search has produced any information thus far.
Judy Kirkpatrick Kersch
Sunday 17th Jul 2016, 09:27PM -
Judy,
You don’t say what denomination you think the family were. If Church of Ireland, the early records were destroyed in the 1922 fire in Dublin and they now have no baptisms earlier than 1879. They have marriages from 1845 and burials 1805 – 1831. Copies of the burials only are in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. The other records are held by the Minister, though the marriages from 1845 should be on the GRONI site for civil registration.
Ballycastle Presbyterian has baptisms and marriages from 1829. They are not on-line anywhere so far as I am aware, but there is a copy in PRONI.
Ramoan Presbyterian church baptisms pre 1900 were destroyed. Marriages from 1845 exist and are on the GRONI site.
All non RC marriages from 1st April 1845 onwards, in what is now Northern Ireland, are on the GRONI site. Marriage records pre 1845 are not on that site, and in many cases are not on-line anywhere either. So probably the daughter married before April 1845 and either that record is lost or is not on-line. You could try Ballycastle Presbyterian’s records but otherwise, I suspect the records are lost.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Monday 18th Jul 2016, 05:38AM