Looking for information on George Menagh and Jane Cullen family of Moy. The Menaghs were either Presbyterian or Church of Ireland. I found a George Menagh who served in the RIC and who died in 1851 but not sure if this is the same George. I have no other info on Jane Cullen or the Cullen family.
They had a son, Thomas, in 1845. He lived in Belfast in the 1870's and married Maria Hardy in 1873 there. They had 3 children and moved to Bandon in County Cork, where they had 6 more children. The children and Thomas eventually moved to Winnipeg, Canada by 1913. He died in Portage la Prairie in 1920.
There was a 2nd son, Wilson George Menagh who moved to Liverpool in the 1870's and died there in 1922. He had a wife and at least 3 chlidren. Any help would be appreciated - I can share info on descendants.
spdrury
Friday 24th Feb 2017, 04:55AMMessage Board Replies
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If you look at Thomas’s 1873 marriage certificate it should give you his father’s name and occupation. If the father had been in the RIC then it should say that, eg RIC pensioner, or police officer etc. So that may help you determine whether the George in the RIC is the right father. Thomas’s marriage was registered in Belfast on 4.9.1873. You can view the original certificate on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:
You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate.
It might also be worth knowing that RIC policy was not to post a police officer to a county in which he or his wife had family. So if George the police officer was serving in Moy when son Thomas was born, then you can be pretty certain he did not originate in Co. Tyrone. His RIC service record should tell you which county he did come from.
Looking at the RIC records on Ancestry, the only George M I can see joined in 1844, when he was aged 23. He was born in Co. Armagh. You had to be single (or a widower) when you joined and you had to wait 7 years before you could marry, so he can’t really be the father of a child born c 1845.
If Thomas was born in Moy (parish of Clonfeacle) and was either Church of Ireland or Presbyterian then the bad news is that with one exception, none of the several churches of those denominations in that parish has any records for 1845. The Church of Ireland has churches in Brantry, Clonfeacle, Derrygortreavy & Moy. Brantry has baptism records from 1844 onwards (copy in PRONI in Belfast) but otherwise all their pre 1880 records were lost in the 1922 fire in Dublin. There are 3 Presbyterian churches (Moy, Benburb & Eglish) but none has anything earlier than 1856. So unless Brantry was the church where Thomas was baptised, you probably won’t be able to find any record of his baptism or birth.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Friday 24th Feb 2017, 07:56AM -
Thanks for your help! The marriage certificate indicates Thomas' father George was an "artisan," so it looks like this is a different George Menagh.
spdrury
Saturday 25th Feb 2017, 04:30AM -
Hi I believe the Menagh family from Moy are my relatives. The George you refer to was my great grandfather who first appears in Liverpool in 1871. He later marries Alice Finn and they have 8 children although only two survive. I have a very detailed history of his life after moving to Liverpool and would be pleased to share it if you would like me to. I don't have a lot of information about the family in Ireland and any information you could share would be greatly appreciated.
caroljames
Friday 17th Mar 2017, 01:38PM -
Yes - that would be great! I may even have a photo of your Wilson George (at least I believe it to be). My e-mail is sean.drury@att.net.
My Ireland info is rather limited but I'm happy to share what I have.
Talk to you soon!
spdrury
Saturday 18th Mar 2017, 01:12PM