Michael Dowling & Bridget Doyle Co. Kildare/Co. Carlow

Eliza:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I think I located the baptismal record for Bridget on the subscription site Roots Ireland. See below. First name of mother is not shown.

I was not able to find the marriage record.

I also could not find death records. However, as of now the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie only has death records images from 1879-1966. We expect more images in the near future. There are some Michael Dowling death index records in the Athy registration district in the 1870s.

Roger McDonnell

Name:Bridget DoyleDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:28-Oct-1838Address:RathvillyParish/District:RATHVILLYGender:
CountyCo. Carlow
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Patrick DoyleMother:Not Recorded BrienOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Daniel Doyle Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Anne Nolan 

Thank you this is great. I couldn't make it out myself from the Nli Parish records. Would it be possible for you to check for a Mark Doyle and a John Doyle with the same parents - Patrick Doyle and Anne Brien. I think they are both youger than Bridget.

My problem with Michael Dowling is I don't know what age he was when he died, or even if he died before his wife. From the records I have looked at on the Irish Geneology Website, none of them seem to fit. Also like you pointed out he may have died between 1873 and 1879, and I can't see those records. But now that I have a baptismal record for his wife it should help me to hopefully narrow down her death record, and subsequently Michael Dowlings.

Much appreciated

Eliza:

I located John. See below. Did not see Mark. Rathvilly covered areas in Carlow and Wicklow.

Roger

Name:John DoyleDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:14-Jul-1851Address:RathvillyParish/District:RATHVILLYGender:
CountyCo. Wicklow
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Pat DoyleMother:Anne BrienOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Christy Deering Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Anne Kehoe 

Thank you that is great! I wonder can you find the baptism record for Patrick Dowling. His civil birth record incorrectly has his name spelled Doolan, born 25 jan 1865. Gormanstown, Kilcullen is listed as place of birth, with Michael Dowling his father's address noted as Martinstown, Ballysax. So his baptism record should between Dec 1864 to Feb 1865. I have checked the Suncroft parish which is where the baptismal records of his siblings all are, but he isn't there. 

Eliza:

I checked Roots Ireland for all of Ireland and also looked at the Suncroft register and no luck finding a Patrick Dowling record.

Roger

Eliza:

I should have checked Patrick Doolan.

Name:Patrick DoolanDate of Birth:05-Jan-1865
Date of Baptism:15-Jan-1865Address:UnknownParish/District:KILCULLENGender:MaleCountyCo. Kildare
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Michael DoolanMother:Bridget DoyleOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:James Conway Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Doyle 

Roger

Thanks so much, you have been a great help. Could you possibly check to see if there are any other baptismal records for the children of Patrick Doyle and Anne Brien in Rathvilly Carlow?

 
I now have Bridget (b.1838) & John (b.1851) - Thanks to you and I also have Michael (b.1853) and Thomas (b.1858). Its just there is a 20 year age gap between Bridget born 1838 and Thomas in 1858. They definitely have a son named Mark/Marcus (who you have searched for before) - He dies in Dublin in 1893 aged about 50 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

Out of the siblings I do know, Bridget and Mark are the only ones to get married, and Mark is the only marriage record I found. Since his wife is from Dublin he gets married in Dublin https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

It would be great to see if Bridget Doyle had any other siblings. Possibly a sister named Mary, as Mary Doyle is a baptismal sponsor for Patrick Dowling, in the last baptismal record you found.

Thanks again for your help

Eliza:

Found a Margaret. See below. There was a Mary Doyle in Borris but the mother was Mary Bryan so I discounted the record.

Roger

Name:Margaret DoyleDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:08-Mar-1840Address:RathvillyParish/District:RATHVILLYGender:
CountyCo. Carlow
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Patrick DoyleMother:Anne BrienOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:John Doyle Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Ellen Brien 

Name:Mary DoyleDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:06-Aug-1843Address:IlParish/District:BORRISGender:
CountyCo. Carlow
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Patrick DoyleMother:Mary BryanOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:James Doyle Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Judith Murphy 

Thank you thats great. You have been a brilliant help

Update:

I have narrowed down Michael Dowling's Death window to between 1872 - 1876. Which is unfortunatley means I can't find his death record on www.irishgenealogy.ie

Eliza:

Right, you will need to wait. We are expecting to see more marriage records shortly but they have not given any date for when death records prior to 1878 will be added.

Roger

So it will be possible perhaps sometime in the future to see it, that's great.

Thanks Roger, you have been a great help :)