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Michael Dargan married Mary Nagle (Neagle) in Fethard in 1835. They are my Great great grandparents. I have hit a brick wall trying to find their parents and siblings.

My Great grand father Richard Joseph Dargan was their third child who came to Australia with his older brother Laurence Joseph Dargan and settled in New South Wales.  Richard was baptised on 27/05/1842 in the records of Cashel and Emly. Register number Fethard/214.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Merilyn Ferguson

Merilyn Ferguson

Tuesday 22nd Oct 2019, 04:44AM

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  • Merilyn:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    I looked on the subscription site FindMyPast.ie  and found an 1818 Mary Nagle baptismal record in Fethard parish. If she married young then possibly this is her baptismal record. I did not find a corresponding Michael Dargan baptismal record in Fethard so possibly he was baptized in another parish.

    Roger McDonnell

    First name(s)MaryLast nameNagleBirth year-Baptism year1818Baptism date26 Jun 1818ParishFethardAlternative parish namesFethard and Killusty, KillustyDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JamesFather's last nameNagleMother's first name(s)EllenMother's last nameTooleRepository

    National Library of Ireland

    National Library of Ireland registerhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632710#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptism

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 22nd Oct 2019, 02:54PM
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    Hi Merilyn

    I have a little information on the Nagle - Dargan connection. I hope it makes sense.  Getting the correct generation is always hard because of the similar names. Checkout Baptisms below. 

    I have always had difficulty being certain of the parents of my Great Grandfather, Patrick Nagle from Tenrush, Killusty, but lean towards William Nagle and Mary O'Gorman.  They are also the parents of a Mary Nagle baptised 1814 in Drangan/Cloneen Parish.   (Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty Parishes crossed over at different times).  

    Mary Nagle baptised Drangan/Cloneen Parish in 24/4/1814  sponsor Richard Nagle and Mary Cleary
    Patrick Nagle baptised Drangan/Cloneen Parish in 11/1/1817 sponsor Edmund Houlihan and Cath Nevill
    Parents:   William Nagle and Mary O'Gorman

    My Grandfather Richard Neagle (Nagle) -  son of Patrick Nagle and Ellen Morris, came out to Galong Castle to John Nagle Ryan in NSW in 1880.   We have a studio photo of Richard Neagle with a handsome "cousin Dargan"'.   Also a studio photo of a married couple with "Cousin Dargans"' written on the back.                               

    Baptisms with DARGAN sponsors.

    Parish: Fethard
    Baptism:  Catherine Nagle
    Date         24/9/1857
    Parents:  Patrick Nagle and Ellen Morris
    Sponsors:  Richard Dargan and Mary Morris

    Parish: Fethard
    Baptism:  Ellen Nagle
    Date         0/2//1862
    Parents:  Patrick Nagle and Ellen Morris
    Sponsors:  Laurence Dargan and Mrs William Nagle

    Hope this helps rather than confuses.   

    I have noticed Laurence J Dargan from the '"Elms"Binnalong, also went to Galong at first?  How does he fit in with your Laurence Dargan?

     

     

    Findsy

    Thursday 22nd Oct 2020, 12:48AM
  • Thank you Roger? The Laurence Dargan you mention at Galong would be my Great Uncle. He was Richard Dargan's (my great grandfather) older brother. Laurence owned " The Elms" in Binalong where he also worked and farmed. John Nagle Ryan took both Richard and Laurence under "his wing" and assisted them to prosper in this area of New South Wales. I recall reading that Patrick (Nagle Neagle) visited Galong and I have heard he travelled to Queensland but this is only hear say . I am unsure if he was related but there is a strong connection with Ned Ryan's wife as she too was a Nagle. I will continue to investigate but would be interested in any photos you have as I have none! There is one photo in a book about Binalong and Galong but the persons are not named. Thank you so much for all the information you have passed on. It has helped me to remotivate my endeavours to continue the search. Merilyn Ferguson

    Merilyn Ferguson

    Saturday 24th Oct 2020, 02:30AM
  • Hi Merilyn

    Sorry that I didn't put my name to the above post. 

    My Grandfather is the Richard Neagle who came to John Nagle Ryan at Galong.  Richard Neagle was left money in  Anastasia Nagle Ryan's Will and with this money, he bought a property in Central Qld (near Capella).  He called this property "Gaylong". with a "y''. My Dad was also Richard (Patrick) Neagle.

    My longshot is that perhaps  the Mary Nagle who is the daughter of Patrick Nagle and Mary O'Gorman and baptised at Drangan parish could be your Mary Nagle that married Michael Dargan. That would make her the sister of my Patrick Nagle (my Great Grandfather) and this is where the "cousin"' comes in, especially as Dargans are sponsors of Nagle children. 

    I am always reluctant to start summising which is why I am still doing family tree 25 years on. Ha Ha.,  If you care to email me I will scan and send photo to you. sybil_f@hotmail.com

    cheers

    Sybil Neagle (maiden name) Findlay

     

    Findsy

    Tuesday 27th Oct 2020, 03:51AM
  • I am a little bit late to this conversation.  My great grandmother is Catherine Dargan, daughter to Michael Dargan and Mary Nagle, and sister to Lawreance and Richard Dargan.  She was born in county Tipperary in June of 1842.  She emigrated to the United States(at what age??) and married my great grandfather, James Connelly, in Cheshire, Massachusetts in November of 1864.  They lived in nearby Lanesborough, Massachusetts their whole life, and where she had 10 children.from 1866 to 1884.  She died in 1919.

    .Other than she embarked to the U.S. from Liverpool I do not know of her prior history.  The brothers went to Australia. Why did she go to the U.S. ?  Was she by herself?  I am not aware of any other siblings.

    I probably have 3rd and 4th cousins in Australia, but know of no Dargan or Nagle relations still in Ireland

    Any info would be appreciated.

    Frank B

    Connecticut, USA

    Sunday 18th Aug 2024, 08:08PM

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