Hello- I will be visiting Co. Longford on October 24th-25th and I am trying to locate the farm of my ggg grandfather, John Mulvany. I have located the records through the Griffiths Valuation but the map will not come up on that site. However, I did find a copy of the map on a genealogy site. Based on tithe records, I have John's father living at that property in 1823 and 1833 and the 1901 and 1911 census has John's son, Francis Mulvany resided there. Additionally, Francis's death record has him dying there in 1923 but I can't find any later connections. This could be a once in a lifetime visit so I was hoping I could avoid having to go to Dublin for records because my time is limited and I would like to spend my time on the ground looking for my families graves. Any advice or direction would be very appreciated.
Thank you,
Loresia Cosgrove
Loresia
Monday 3rd Jul 2023, 02:47PMMessage Board Replies
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Loresia:
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The 1923 civil death record shows that Thomas Mulvaney son was the informant. Presumably Thomas took over the farm. I checked the civil death records from 1923-1972 and there was no Thomas Mulvaney death registered in that period in the Granard registration district. Thomas was 35 in 1911 and 47 or so in 1923. Likely his death was not recorded. Thomas was unmarried in 1911 and I checked for any civil marriage records and found none so likely he remained unmarried.
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Monday 3rd Jul 2023, 03:06PM -
Roger-
Thank you! I completed I completed that form. Was it common for a death to go unreported in the 1900s? I have others that I can't find and I was assuming they must have immigrated somewhere else.
Loresia
Loresia
Tuesday 4th Jul 2023, 03:40PM -
Loresia:
I can't give you an exact percentage but it would have been under 10% unreported. Maybe Thomas got rid of the farm and emigrated but he was around 47 when Francis died. I know you don't want to go to Dublin but at this time the Valuation Office is the only place with the records showing transfer of ownership. Ironically, the comparable records for the six counties in Northern Ireland have been available online for probably 10 years. Eventually, the records for the 26 counties in the Republic of Ireland will be online but we may see the 1926 census online first.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Tuesday 4th Jul 2023, 07:07PM -
Loresia,
I see Roger has helped you here out already, but just in case you have not got all of this information, I am providing links to some information on your Mulvaney Family from Carrickadorrish:
1923 Death Certificate - Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
1911 Census - Carrickadorrish Townland - Mulvaney Family:
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002889993/
1901 Census - Carrickadorrish Townland - Mulvaney Family:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001025147/
1883 Death Certificates of Patt Mulvaney, aged 9, and
1883 Death Ceritifcate of Bridget Mulvaney aged 2,
both children of Francis Mulvaney (both on the same page):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
1880 Death Certificate of John Mulvaney, most likely the father of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
1879 Death Certificate of Mary Mulvaney, most likely the mother of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
1886 Birth Certificate of Catherine Muvaney, daughter of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
Informant: Mary Anne Mulvaney, present at death, Carrickadorrish
1883 Birth Certificate of Edward Mulvaney, son of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1881 Birth Certificate of Bridget Mulvaney, daughter of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1879 Birth Certificate of Bernard Mulvaney, son of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1877 Birth Certificate of Michael Mulvaney, son of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1876 Birth Certificate of Thomas Mulvaney, son of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1875 Birth Certificate of Mary Mulvaney, daughter of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1874 Birth Certificate of Patt Mulvaney, son of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1873 Birth Certificate of John Mulvaney, son of Francis Mulvaney:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1872 Marriage Certificate of Francis Mulvaney, son of John Mulvaney, married Bridget Flynn as follows:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…
The following 1870 Marriage Certificate is probably Francis Mulvaney's sister Ellen Mulvaney, daughter of John Mulvaney, married John Cosgrove:https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…
15 July 1845 Baptismal Record, Colmcille RC Parish, County Longford:
Francis Mulvaney, son of Joh Mulvaney & Mary McGarry
witnesses: James & Anne McGarry
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632401#page/4/mode/1up
Contact me by email: davidleahy@eircom.net
and I will provide some additional information.
Hoping some of this information is new to you,
David Leahy, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎
Sunday 16th Jul 2023, 10:54PM