Lawrence Thomas Shadwell 18501850

Lawrence Thomas Shadwell 1850

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Date of Birth 1st Jan 1850
Date of Death 1st Jan 1915 (circa)
Townland born Dunshaughlin, Kiltale, Meath
Spouse (First Name/s and Maiden/Surname) Mary Ann Cooney (born in NJ, USA)
Father (First Name/s and Surname) John Shadwell
Mother (First Name/s and Maiden) Bridget Byrne
Place & Date of Marriage Orange, New Jersey, USA - 1877 - Our Lady of the Valley Church
Number of Children 9
Names of Children Lillian, Margaret, Patrick, John, William, Elizabeth, James, Mary, Bridget
Names of Siblings Thomas (this might be the same person, Lawrence himself...still figuring it out), Alice, Elizabeth, Patrick, Bridget
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  • Shadwell families in Dunshaughlin, Meath:

    2 Aug 1801    LAURENCE SHADWELL marries

    Silley Mooney (SALLY MOONEY)

    Dunshaughlin parish, Meath diocese, County Meath

    1st Witness Alice Coffy

    2nd Witness John Plunkett

    3rd Witness George Plunkett

    Note who the witnesses are. In Galway and Cork there are Shadwells who sometimes marry into the lower echelons of the Anglo Irish gentry, usually the newer ranks and occasionally the earlier Norman Irish.  Some of these Shadwells are in the professions, e.g. doctors, lawyers, Church of Ireland vicars, etc.  One or two families are Roman Catholic, but the others seem to be Church of Ireland.  The Shadwell name arose in various locations in the UK, usually where there is or was a well or spring named for St Chad.  Hence there were the Shadwells from Leeds in Yorkshire, the Shadwells in Norfolk (though Poet Laureate's family of Norfolk claimed to be descended from the Staffordshire Shadwells), There were Shadwell families in Berkshire, in Wiltshire, in Sussex and lots of other places.  It is difficult to work out which of the Shadwell families in Ireland came from where in the UK originally.  It is known that the father of Thomas Shadwell, Poet Laureate, was in Galway for a while, as he was Attorney General there, and was elected Collector of Galway in 1666. 

    The names of many of his children are unknown, and one or some of them could have made their homes in Ireland.    His son Edward was in Ireland - he settled in Dublin and estabished the first family insurance company there.  His nephew Charles Shadwell worked with him or took over this business. 

    There were Shadwells in Galway - Josiah Shadwell was a collector, married twice and had a number of children. He was probably the same Josiah Shadwell who was at West Meath, an excise officer, and either he or a Josiah Shadwell who was born earlier surveyed in 1713, in County Cavan, the estate of Ms Jane Culme : "(2): A list of the estate of Ms Jane Culme with ‘the number of acres, there quality on every pole, tate and townland according to Irish Plantation, surveyed in 1713 by Josiah Shadwell’. 1 item. This is in the NI national archives holdings, in the Maxwell estate documents.  Josiah Shadwell of Eyreville, Kiltomer, Galway had a relative who was a Thomas Shadwell, living in Galway. One of Josiah Shadwell's daughters mentions a cousin Elizabeth Shadwell in Cork. Honoria, another of Josiah's daughters marries a Donellan,an Irish landed family, and then a Browne - early Anglo-Irish. Josiah Shadwell owned land in Limerick. 

    Other Galway Shadwells are sadlers in Loughrea, some are doctors there. One Galway Shadwell was a goldsmith. 

    There were Shadwells in Cork, two of whom if not more were merchants. One of these married Isabella Mitchel of Aghada, Cork, whose family also leased an estate in Gloucestershire, near Bristol, from the Archdiocese. These Mitchells, originally Quaker merchants of Bristol, settled in Cork in the 17th century, and acquired land in Watergrasshill, north of Cork City.

    The problem is to work out which Shadwell families in Ireland were related, and how, and which were not. 

    Shadwell

    Saturday 23rd February 2019 02:33AM
  • My paternal great grandmother, Sarah Shadwell, was the daughter of Thomas Shadwell, MD of Loughrea, Galway. I have a huge amount of information on these Irish Shadwells, gathered over decades and many trips to Ireland. Happy to share.

    Randy Ingham

    rngra

    Sunday 8th May 2022 03:16PM
  • Thanks so much the both of you!

    "rngra" I would love to connect with you more to discuss the Shadwells of Ireland. Have you ever found a connect betweent the Galway or Loughrea Shadwells and the Meath Shadwells?

    "Shadwell" thank you much for your detailed comment!! It was really helpful!

    jpreziosi

    Monday 6th February 2023 01:04PM
  • By the way, I must not have remembered that I already posted this bio and I created another, more detailed one. At some point I will merge that info over here so that I don't lose the comments from the two of you.

    https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/ancestor-dat…

    jpreziosi

    Monday 6th February 2023 01:08PM
  • Many thanks for the link.

    Do you have a family tree on Ancestry uk? Or is it on another genealogy site?

    Shadwell

    Tuesday 7th February 2023 11:46PM
  • I, and a friend in Ennis, Clare are, especially, interested in Lawrence’s father, John. At least a couple of the Meath John Shadwells were clergy. Of course, I’m also interested in the Plunkett witness, given the importance of that family in Irish history and culture!

    rngra

    Wednesday 8th February 2023 11:31AM
  • I wish I could respond to both of you separately, but alas...

    "Shadwell" -- I have a private family tree on Ancestry (US), however I would be willing to add you as a guest to view it. I've also been considering creating an entirely separate Shadwell tree and keeping it public. I wish there was a way here to send a private message so we could exchange email addresses.....

    Randy Ingham -- the same message applies to you!! I had not seen any info on Shadwell clergymen in Meath!! This is amazing news, thank you!! Also, I tried a quick search for the Plunkett witness and there were too many with that same name to get very far. However, this was at least a couple years ago. I will try my best to get back into this branch as soon as I'm done researching my husband's branch of Berlin Jews in the Holocaust... I want to be done with that in time for Holocaust Remembrance month in April. I'll try my best to get back into this ASAP!!

    jpreziosi

    Wednesday 8th February 2023 04:02PM
  • Oh! I have a question for you both that may help me solve a mystery. Did any of your Shadwells immigrate to New Zealand? (Or Australia?) This ancestor, Lawrence Thomas, originally immigrated to New Jersey, USA, but then when he was about 50ish, he immigrated to New Zealand without his family. I researched the New Zealand electoral rolls and found other Shadwells, however I know there were English Shadwells there from the last time I researched this. However, I also recently found two records that show a John Shadwell from Ireland who was a deserter! My imagination led me to think he might've been shipped off to Australia as punishment, but I haven't yet dug around more. Been busy like I said with my husband's family. 

    jpreziosi

    Wednesday 8th February 2023 04:16PM

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